First 2020 Presidential Debate

[Lyubov]

Here is a link for anyone streaming it. Starts in 1 hour.

[Preety_India]

Im sitting and waiting on this link since last 20 minutes. 

Kinda anxious. 

 

[Forestluv]

Keep in mind that in U.S. debates, the "winner" is often the one who exceeded expectations. There will be enormous efforts to frame the winner during and after the debate. Most people have already made up their mind, yet if one candidate fails far short of expectations, they can be framed as the loser and that can capture several news cycles. 

The Trump team has been portraying Biden as a senile man with dementia, so the expectations were super low. Recently, Trump's team has created the narrative that Joe is senile, yet is on cognitive PEDs. They are trying to increase the expectations for Joe. I'm not sure if it will work though. If Joe pulls off a decent performance, I think it would be hard to say it was the adderall talking. Yet Trumpers would certainly believe that.

Also in high profile political debates, there is about a 10% chance of a candidate having such a bad moment that it essentially ends their campaign - such as Marco Rubio. Yet the country is so polarized on Trump, it would have to be something really really bad.

I think the biggest issue for Biden is whether he can keep his cool. Trump will likely try to personally attack Joe to get under his skin. The moderators often encourage that because its good for ratings. In the past, Joe has gotten frustrated / angry and looks bad. Imo, Joe looks his best when he comes across as a composed, stoic, decent guy. 

[Preety_India]

@Forestluv like he did to Hillary by calling her a nasty woman in the middle of the debate. 

Yep. 

 

[Preety_India]

Will they be wearing masks or nah? 

It's going to be moderated  by Chris Wallace. 

Alternative link for commentary feed. 

 

Edited September 30, 2020 by Preety_India

[Lyubov]

Donny's son doing the devil's work with his "both sides" argument. 

[Lyubov]

5 minutes in and trump already arguing with the moderator and making a fool of himself

[aurum]

6 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

5 minutes in and trump already arguing with the moderator and making a fool of himself

Total shit show, they can't stop talking over each other. Opportunity for all us watching to practice radical acceptance. Love this as it is.

[Preety_India]

It's wild. Trump constantly interrupting like a petulant baby and not even giving 1 second to Biden to speak. Talking over him, very nasty. 

Moderator is having a very hard time. 

Trump not being civil and Biden at one point even said "shut up man".. 

Trump just yapping. 

Shit show. 

Trump being a straight up bully. 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 30, 2020 by Preety_India

[FortisFortunaAdiuvat]

This debate is hard to watch

[Leo Gura]

Not good for Biden. His points are far too weak.

Trump has the better optics and tone.

Biden is not leveling any kind of serious critique of the Trump administration's devilry, corruption, and incompetence.

[LoveandPurpose]

Biden is solid so far. Trump being Trump as usual and as expected. 

He doesn't have to do much, just has to shine the light on Trumps lies.

[diamondpenguin]

Trumps gotta stop interrupting. Lol. 

[Gili Trawangan]

I've watched some of it, it's actually the first time I've ever seen Biden speak for more than a couple of minutes. Biden has no fluency in speech, has poor body language, and can't handle Trump's "all over the place" rhetoric. Biden is just too slow-witted, he stands no chance. And he looks desperate too.

It will be four more years of Trump, I've seen enough.

[AtheisticNonduality]

Trump sounds like a clown.

[tuckerwphotography]

16 minutes ago, LoveandPurpose said:

Biden is solid so far.

Are we watching the same debate? From my POV, Biden appears weak and wiped. When he does get the chance to talk he stumbles and frankly is far less entertaining than Trump. Unfortunately. 

[Extreme Z7]

Trump

• Fighting with the Moderator
• Lots of Yelling
• Same Old, Same Old, Talking Points

Biden

• Fairly Low Energy (Relatively Speaking)
• Shallow One-Word Insults (Sometimes)
• Not Hard Enough on Trump

Bernie

Edited September 30, 2020 by Extreme Z7

[FortisFortunaAdiuvat]

Biden had a slow start

[LoveandPurpose]

@tuckerwphotography I think that Biden highlighting Trumps mistakes is solid. He's no charismatic, high-energy and rhetoric leader but he's just what I think people want right now: A more competent and reliable politician.

[UnbornTao]

Biden should had taken modafinil or something.

Trump should just learn to listen a little bit.