Truth

[Orange]

Guys, is there really such a thing as one and unique Truth??

We all have a different brain, experience and we have 5 limited senses..

Can anyone claim to know the truth?

 

[Matthew Lamot]

14 minutes ago, Orange said:

Guys, is there really such a thing as one and unique Truth??

We all have a different brain, experience and we have 5 limited senses..

Can anyone claim to know the truth?

 

Truth is another object.  The longer you continue to seek it, the unhappier you get and the further you get away from living your truth.

[Gabriel David Gomez]

A correct perspective is a truthful perspective. Any inaccurate take is falsehood; in fact, because so many lies are known, truth is simply the polar opposite. Truth is what nature operates on (because nothing illogical has ever happened). Therefore truth is logical; and because truth is logical and nature operates off of logic, it is only natural that all of nature has links to itself. For instance a three stage link such as reproduction and the process of plant growth. A man is the planter and the woman is the earth, after a period of time the "earth" gives forth the "fruit of the womb". Thus the etymological relevance is made. The logic which links the universe together is found similarly to how you can see three hundred different faced humans and still know they are human. The same basics, but a different subject. The reason is because logic is the foundation of the universe. This is why, in the christian faith, Christ (Eashoa Msheekha) is described as the way; because truth is the proper manner of establishing. Christ is also described as the life; because things cannot exist without him. Christ is also described as the truth and the firstborn of creation because the foundation is supposed to be the first thing set by the builder (The Father). The steady foundation is described as the rock which is firm. To summarize the bible's relevance in finding truth, even the miracles have a meaning in how the universe operates so that anyone with wisdom can see, not myths, but scientifically accurate evidence.

Now, truth even according to the bible is not just what is in the bible (contrary to what the bible thumping fake set pastor behind a pulpit). A verse in the bible says, "Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things.". Therefore I say, to all of those close minded "so-called" christians, it is only right that the bible said there would be few real christians in the last days, because its true. The truth is that ALL THINGS TRUE ARE ACCEPTABLE. Even Thomas Aquinas said that the catholics disbelieved the scientists who wanted to provide logical proof of god.

Now, about that verse I quoted, remember what Aristotle said, "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." I quote this so that you don't think I'm some fanatic and so that you know this topic has basis on truth rather than futile tradition, close mindedness, and religious rant. This website isn't for that. But that Aristotle quote is to make you think.

[30secs]

@Orange

what IS that remain if you remove all concepts(namely "brain", "senses" "unique experience" "language", "logic" "YOU")? okay I guess you can watch again Leo's "All Knowledge Explain" and "The Enlightened Self", you can found some direct insight there.

Edited August 22, 2016 by 30secs

[Beam]

On 2016-08-20 at 9:39 AM, Orange said:

Guys, is there really such a thing as one and unique Truth??

We all have a different brain, experience and we have 5 limited senses..

Can anyone claim to know the truth?

 

The one unique truth that I'm aware of is love of life and living , besides that its all conjecture !

[FindingPeace]

On 20/08/2016 at 5:39 PM, Orange said:

Can anyone claim to know the truth?

It is my understanding that reality itself is a subjective experience. Therefore truth is largely subjective. The greatest truth we can experience as a living being is pure, untainted, experience without the clouding from the ego or the mind.

I suppose the ultimate 'truth' is something that doesn't have to be believed or conceptualised. Something that just is as it is. Not a thought, a belief, an idea, a story etc. In fact it would be impossible to convey the truth through any language, because to do so is to conceptualise and abstract it into something other than what it really is.

You can't know the truth. You can only experience it.

[abrakamowse]

I think there's something that is really "truth", the only problem is we can't grasp it.

IMO there's people who know the truth, the problem is that when they try to explain it they have to do it with our language, limitations so it will never be the truth. It will be "pointers" to us. Because we will interpret their words in our own idea of reality.

It's like if you are in the Matrix, Neo will have to talk to you getting into it and telling you that there's something outside the matrix, but you can't see it because you are in it.

Right now I am not sure about anything so take my comments as "pointers" to or throw them to the garbage.

LoL

[abrakamowse]

I found this, I think it may be a good thing to share here. I don't know the author.

"We look for success, but in spiritual life, the pot of gold is at the other end of the rainbow -- the failure end. The instant the soul conclusively recognizes ego's failure, Truth takes over, and life becomes a better story. Such is the story of enlightenment.
Enlightenment is not the condition that many people picture -- a personal triumph, achieved by getting "on top of" more and more things. It is not a skill you acquire in the midst of infinity. Closer to the truth, enlightenment is a failure. "

Edited September 6, 2016 by abrakamowse

[MIARIVEL]

@Orange The truth is how you interpret the truth? what is truth to you? how do you know it is the truth? however you look at it is how you perceive what is true to you

[Tron]

To be honest I feel like I have grown more and more confused about what truth is since I truly understood the concept of enlightenment (about two years ago). I am trying to find that middle path. Part of me questions whats up and whats down now, but I also understand that I do have desires and do crave success, and that requires me to be grounded in the dream to a certain extent. 

I am aware that these things are kind of the opposite of truth. But I feel like I must build these things to let them go. And with disciplined practices and most importantly, staying aware, I have faith that truth will reach 'me' when it's ready. 

[Orange]

On 07/09/2016 at 4:03 AM, MIA.RIVEL said:

@Orange The truth is how you interpret the truth? what is truth to you? how do you know it is the truth? however you look at it is how you perceive what is true to you

I don't agree.. My truth when I was a kid was that santa claus existed. But santa claus is not true (as I realised later). So to answer your question, I have no idea what the truth is 

 

Edited September 8, 2016 by Orange

[abrakamowse]

If there's an objective truth, we can't see it. Because how can a thought see truth? The ego is just a thought that can't comprehend anything.

And if the I AM arises and sees truth and gets awaken, he can't explain it with words, or better said he can explain but we, from our ego point of view will, never understand its real significance. Like a kid that doesn't want to believe that Santa doesn't exist. He will not understand or accept the idea.

So, what can we do? Be quiet and still the mind, so truth arises.

Edited September 8, 2016 by abrakamowse

[Beam]

Its likely there is not a single truth but a conglomerate of truths that are working together in harmony to produce everything that was , is or going to be.

http://lawsoftheuniverse.weebly.com/12-immutable-universal-laws.html

 

 

[MIARIVEL]

@Orange The truth is how you interpret it at the time. Sort of like what you fall in in love and that person cheats on you. At the time you believe its love then when its over you think it was never love it was all a lie etc. Whatever you believe at the time that things are happening is your truth. 

If you see no truth in anything then you have no hope and life just seems a waste. Why would you want to waste away this precious gift. We all need something to believe in. So when a little child believe in the Santa or the tooth fairy, that is their truth because children do not know any better or yet able to understand and comprehend what is true and what isn't. We as adults don't judge and think little children are stupid because that is what they want to believe. Same with adults, I could believe my partner is loyal to me and he loves me and that is my truth, where as a friend can be like ' her partner doesn't love her because he treats her bad and she is too stupid to realise how much of a liar he is', that is her truth, her reality. Just because people have different opinions, doesn't make their or our opinion any more truthful.

Life is what you make it and you are the only one who interprets it. So if you believe there is no truth, well that is your truth .. that there simply is no truth. 

[pluto]

There is no truth, there is only perception.