To Those Who Support Red Pill

[Bulgarianspirit]

1 minute ago, Preety_India said:

@Bulgarianspirit  I wish you peace. 

 

Thanks

[ColeMC01]

@Preety_India You are looking at it from your personal agenda and pov. Let me tell you something. Most girls that get abused and treated like shit by guys know well what kind of guys they are. Guys are very simple, if they are fun assholes you will know very quickly. But girls don't care about this. You screen guys based on criteria that only the assholes will be left. You don't care how honest, kind they are, you care about how confident, assertive and ruthless they are. Therefore you hand select the players to date and complain after about being treated badly. Personally i did not know about the Red Pill and was ignored by girls all my life. I am what you would consider the perfect "on paper" guy and i got shit. I have other friends that are dicks to girls and get them in big quantities. Also i have friends that if they are nice and kind get friend zoned while if they act like jerks they get the girls. The same fucking person, completely different results based on how "red pilled" they are. These are not coincidences. If you want kind men then start selecting them and not the fun players. But of course you don't care about that. You care about fun, excitement, adventure etc. Well enjoy that with the abuse that comes with it. I honestly have no empathy for girls that hand select players then cry after about how cruel they are.  If you want good men in your lives then select them based on "bluepilled" values. It would be like a guy picking his girlfriend just based on her looks and ignoring everything else. Society would say it is his fault if she turns out a total bitch since he only cared about her looks and ignoring everything else, all the red flags. And the red pill even though is toxic to some extent, is a good way for young broken men to get hope and learn how attraction actually works. Leo videos about getting girls ALL fall into the red pill realm. Everything he says from detatchment, boldness, fun, exictment etc are all what the red pill says attracts girls. You should not be dogmatic about it ofc, but this whole treat girls with respect is blown out of proportion. 

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[Preety_India]

 

1 minute ago, ColeMC01 said:

@Preety_India You are looking at it from your personal agenda and pov. Let me tell you something. Most girls that get abused and treated like shit by guys know well what kind of guys they are. Guys are very simple, if they are fun assholes you will know very quickly. But girls don't care about this. You screen guys based on criteria that only the assholes will be left. You don't care how honest, kind they are, you care about how confident, assertive and ruthless they are. Therefore you hand select the players to date and complain after about being treated badly. Personally i did not know about the Red Pill and was ignored by girls all my life. I am what you would consider the perfect "on paper" guy and i got shit. I have other friends that are dicks to girls and get them in big quantities. Also i have friends that if they are nice and kind get friend zoned while if they act like jerks they get the girls. The same fucking person, completely different results based on how "red pilled" they are. These are not coincidences. If you want kind men then start selecting them and not the fun players. But of course you don't care about that. You care about fun, excitement, adventure etc. Well enjoy that with the abuse that comes with it. I honestly have no empathy for girls that hand select players then cry after about how cruel they are.  If you want good men in your lives then select them based on "bluepilled" values. And the red pill even though is toxic to some extent, is a good way for young broken men to get hope and learn how attraction actually works. Leo videos about getting girls ALL fall into the red pill realm. Everything he says from detatchment, boldness, fun, exictment etc are all what the red pill says attracts girls. You should not be dogmatic about it ofc, but this whole treat girls with respect is blown out of proportion. 

You're wrong on so many levels and full of projections. I didn't choose any man because I didn't have any standards to begin with. I was new to the dating scene, back then I didn't even know what dating meant, I was approached by men and I easily fell in love, and I didn't measure them by their confidence or anything like that, they were manipulative enough to make me feel that I'm wanted and loved. It wasn't me who was rolling the ball, but they using sneaky tricks to flirt with my brain. And I just surrendered to them. 

I would have gladly done the same if a kind gentleman good on paper guy came up to me. But such a guy never came because they don't have enough confidence to approach women, they don't get out of their house, let alone approach women. They are so shy that they look elsewhere if a woman walked by. 

So the only guys who approach women are the arrogant over confident bamboozled types who think they can win all women. Women generally don't know what these men are about and they simply accept that these are best men only to figure out later that they are arrogant nasty abusive. That's when the woman's brain begins to operate and learn how not to attract such douches anymore and look and carefully screen the good man 

Also the women who get attracted to your toxic game play are also toxic themselves. Then when they betray  you, you're left with a sore back. Good women want gentlemen and not players. 

If you are dating a club woman who is used to sleeping with all men, then of course you're knowingly dating a woman of that type who will leave you in a heartbeat. 

But if you choose a conscious woman who values good qualities in a man, she is less likely to breach her own values. 

Jerks get the girls because Jerks have nasty confidence and chase the woman all the way till she gives up, whereas the "good guys" just don't try at all out of low self esteem or confidence. 

A lot of this can be solved if women are allowed to approach instead of just letting them sit and wait. But social conditioning is such that it forbids it and makes a woman look like a bimbo if she made the first move. 

Honestly women aren't as bad as you think. 

And to top it off, the whole notion of pigeonholing most women is ridiculous because all women are different, but red pill wants you to believe very strongly that all women are same, which is pure toxic. 

It's pure stereotyping. You can obviously say that you had bad experiences with women. But to say that all women will bring you bad experiences is a complete lie because there are several men who have a wonderful happy marriage. 

[ColeMC01]

@Preety_India I have no hatred towards women or anyone. I am just saying that you should be fully responsible for your action and pick partners based on positive and not player attributes. By you i didn't mean you personally, i meant girls in general. Sorry if this created misunderstandings, i should have clarified it in my post. Maybe you pick the good guys but most girls don't. They settle with the good guys when older but in their early 20s the chances of getting a girl are much higher as a jerk. Look at Leo, just watch his videos on girls, they are spot on. It is not true that good girls will choose good guys and bad girls will choose fun players. MOST girls, whether good or bad just go with what feels exciting and fun to them, instead of being a bit more mature and taking values into account. I am talking about girls around 18-24 years old since i personally am at that range. I have seen it happen over and over again with my own eyes so it will be hard for you to debunk it.  The guy that approached more than 2000 girls agrees with most of this. You cannot ignore reality.

Let me tell you what happens as a good guy. You meet someone, you get to know them and they really start liking you as a PERSON. They will not get wet by you. Unless you are very handsome or have high social status she will just think of you as a great guy but she will NOT feel anything for you. Then you will get the you re great guy so lets be friends speech. Meanwhile the player acts brash, bold, assertive, dominant, witty etc and that gets the girl wet and they fuck etc etc. But those qualities are mostly found in jerks so yeah. Leo videos about assholes sumps it up beautifully.

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[Bulgarianspirit]

Whatever the truth is i recommend both genders to avoid getting used.

Also being single ain't that bad. Sometimes people rush into relationships only to clean the mess after.

There should be a balance, if you lose your relationship you should still be happy. 

I am also trying to work towards that myself.

[Arcangelo]

Unfortunately Redpill knowledge has been demonized in this forum.

[Bulgarianspirit]

Most people are low consciousness and egotistical, better safe than sorry.

You can see it in relationships as well.

I need you to provide for me, or i want sex on the men side... 

Quite honestly it becomes hell when money is involved and i think mostly men get the bad end of the stick,divorce child support paying her loans etc.

Humans are a mess and love is a transaction,conditional, so everyone should have one thing in mind.

As for hypergamy... Well i wish it didn't exist but who am i to piss on god's creation?

There is always a richer,smarter, better looking man or woman and cheating is hell.

But its your fault you got cheated on... Yeah that fixes everything thank you not

You could waste so much time money and sanity trying to maintain a relationship, this is why i love the red pill.

I have a choice i can walk away.

All the disney fantasy of true love being a lie,you can just let reality be itself and watch with popcorn.

Edited September 23, 2020 by Bulgarianspirit

[Globalcollective]

7 hours ago, ColeMC01 said:

@Preety_India I have no hatred towards women or anyone. I am just saying that you should be fully responsible for your action and pick partners based on positive and not player attributes. By you i didn't mean you personally, i meant girls in general. Sorry if this created misunderstandings, i should have clarified it in my post. Maybe you pick the good guys but most girls don't. They settle with the good guys when older but in their early 20s the chances of getting a girl are much higher as a jerk. Look at Leo, just watch his videos on girls, they are spot on. It is not true that good girls will choose good guys and bad girls will choose fun players. MOST girls, whether good or bad just go with what feels exciting and fun to them, instead of being a bit more mature and taking values into account. I am talking about girls around 18-24 years old since i personally am at that range. I have seen it happen over and over again with my own eyes so it will be hard for you to debunk it.  The guy that approached more than 2000 girls agrees with most of this. You cannot ignore reality.

Let me tell you what happens as a good guy. You meet someone, you get to know them and they really start liking you as a PERSON. They will not get wet by you. Unless you are very handsome or have high social status she will just think of you as a great guy but she will NOT feel anything for you. Then you will get the you re great guy so lets be friends speech. Meanwhile the player acts brash, bold, assertive, dominant, witty etc and that gets the girl wet and they fuck etc etc. But those qualities are mostly found in jerks so yeah. Leo videos about assholes sumps it up beautifully.

@ColeMC01 it's not actually being a jerk, girls like guys who are not needy, understand socail acuity and are good at sexually esculating in a calibrated way. Stop genrelaizing and scapegoating. 

@Arcangelo  well maybe becaude its toxic and will hold u back in your development is this not obvious?  If I was Leo I'd clamp down hard on anything to do with this stuff. What is it ultimately that you guys want from your life? Is it not to grow into the best person possible? Surely that person would have no room for red pill. 

It's your funeral at the end of the day

Edited September 23, 2020 by Globalcollective

[Thestarguitarist14]

It’s tough.  I have had dealt with back to back women who I fell in love with, but they only saw me as options and discarded me.  
 

But I blame myself.  If I was thinking in a different way and more mature, I would have never put myself in those positions and attracted those women in the first place.  Especially when I was also dating a woman who was treating me way better than those two ever did.

[Preety_India]

@Thestarguitarist14  I'm glad you are able to see through things that have gone wrong. It brings clarity in life. 

Wish you the best. 

 

[No Self]

Regarding the OP's point, the only solution at some point would be a heavy-handed approach to moderating on the forum, and perhaps more female moderators. As we find with modern day political discourse, naivety in terms of permitting unlimited 'free speech' can lead to hoards of mobs who are energised by their victimhood-identity tribe and inevitably end up creating a cultural cesspool of toxicity. Stop the garden from being taken over by the weeds with a little effort each day.

A few other points to make.

Regarding people who have experienced abuse at the hands of empathy-disabled individuals (narcissistic personality disorder, psychopaths, whatever you want to call them), my view is that the problem lies primarily with the education system and parenting. The same way that rulers like Stalin cause trouble (to put it nicely) due to lacking empathy, equivalent destruction can happen to people who end up in an intimate relationship with narcissists who are naturally manipulative, charming, cruel, ruthless and so on. Why is nothing taught about this in school? Is learning about algebra more relevant to the average person? Everyone walks into the traps of psychopaths because they are completely naïve and uneducated to even the most obvious red flags. Hence my conclusion that the education system has failed at a very basic level in forcing people to learn such a hard lesson through agonising experience.

The other debates here are somewhat nuanced. If Leo's advice is taken, work can be done to improve a man's attractiveness with women, just as women will generally find that their level of attractiveness is proportional to their appearance. It is not a system that has any inherent fairness, and waging a battle against human biology is likely to be a fool's errand. Frustration by people who are perfectly decent but struggle to attract a partner is understandable in itself.

There is an educational problem here, too, because a lot of young men think that porn offers insight into human sexuality, and that romance movies accurately portray the nature of long-term relationships. The reality that life is naturally unfair, and some people have vastly more opportunity than others, is never spoken of. Cognitive biases are at play in a major way, too. How many men in the victimhood brigade notice that overweight women face an almost identical predicament? The reality is that some people have to work extremely hard, and under the right guidance, in order to be in the game. And it seems to me that some people are not well suited to relationships at all, though life sometimes produces miracles.

Given the spiritual bent of this community, we are much better off looking for the deeper message in all of this mayhem. 'All life is suffering' applies here. People who say they will never trust again are actually speaking from a place of profound wisdom, as life is unreliable by its very nature. This is at the root of human suffering. The beauty of this is that the most disadvantaged people in the love game are in the best position to seek the truth of the Self. This is how I interpret Jesus' remark that it is easier to fit a camel through the head of a pin than for a rich man to find the kingdom of heaven.

The best piece of advice that I can give is similar to Leo's: whatever pathway that is taken, be it self-improvement, proper spiritual seeking or some sort of combo, victimhood is an unwise way to expend energy and will generate unwise outcomes.

[No Self]

5 minutes ago, K Ghoul said:

@No Self “Everyone walks into the traps of psychopaths” yet the percentage of psychopathic individuals is roughly at 1% across global population. Something doesn’t add up.

I mis-used the word 'everyone'. I take that back. Though in saying that, a single psychopath can burn dozens of people. Serial killers have been known to kill dozens if not hundreds. As rulers, they can kill millions.

Keep in mind that in addition to the psychiatric condition of narcissistic personality, lacking empathy can be a learned behaviour. One only has to look at how many people are perfectly fine with destruction of the ecosystem. Many men are raised to lack empathy for women, and vice versa, though the latter is a more recent phenomenon.

[The0Self]

11 hours ago, K Ghoul said:

@No Self “Everyone walks into the traps of psychopaths” yet the percentage of psychopathic individuals is roughly at 1% across global population. Something doesn’t add up.

It’s not that so many people walk into the traps of psychopaths, it’s that so many people walk into the traps of those with any of the dark triad traits, particularly narcissism, which is expressed at a pretty high rate especially among extroverted people.

[Arcangelo]

On 9/23/2020 at 5:25 AM, Bulgarianspirit said:

I support it after my ex almost made me kill myself,go into debt and find god(crazy life)

But basically i will never trust a woman the same again, i was even thinking of going monk.

However i dont blame her it's all my fault for even loving her. She was a user pretending to be sick and unable to work so i provide for her. Then she just cheated with a richer dude.

I also lost faith in love, hypergamy is very real and i want to protect myself otherwise i might end up in the gutter.

Let women love all the rich,muscular men out there(was cheated by both my girlfriends) 

I just don't want to play a losing game anymore.

 I don't see the misogyny here. Where is the toxicity?

[Arcangelo]

On 9/23/2020 at 7:32 AM, ColeMC01 said:

Leo videos about getting girls ALL fall into the red pill realm. Everything he says from detatchment, boldness, fun, exictment etc are all what the red pill says attracts girls.

I agree 100%

 

 

 

[OBEler]

red pillers are all stage orange mostly, even if there is truth in red pill, they see woman just as bitch and want to maximize sex at every cost

red pill turned into a bad ideology because of all these frustrated men out there like leo said.