Thoughts And Focus (how To Manage)

[Gabriel David Gomez]

When trying to be rid of a specific thought, the key is not to resist or engage in them. To resist would be like you pulling away from yourself, because that thing you disown is of you; you would be like a kingdom divided against itself. That would be like pulling your own arm off; your body would follow it unless you caused damage. Also, to engage in unwanted thoughts would only expand upon them. The answer is actually non-action and to step back to the point of observation (still not resisting or engaging in them) and watch it as it deludes if it does not leave immediately. By non-action, you induce a sort of indifference (which you should side with and become neither "against" or "for" the unwanted thought), and by indifference you direct your focus to bigger things. The real dangers are things external to your internal self. Do not treat the internal "you" as the enemy. YOu would then begin a struggle consisting of pointless suspicion and, once again, be a kingdom divided against itself (which will fall if you continue). 

 

Be neither for (if you cannot stop thinking about something you like) or against them. Do not resist or engage in them. Be indifferent and of non-action.

 

This method I have created is useful to redirect your focus, you know, get your mind off of things. If you give the information a twist and consider the terms' polar opposites, you can find out how to encourage thoughts. I recommend using thought and the mind itself for nothing other than strategy, tactic, and action. Conceptual view, opinions, and bias based on futile traditions and emotionally charged fake justification is useless.

Edited August 19, 2016 by Gabriel David Gomez

[Christian]

You basically answered the question that the title consists of by yourself; that to control thoughts we shall try to not resist them or engage in them. Well, sorry to tell you, but there is no "way" to achieve control over your thoughts.

No technique can help you. 

Why? There is no self to control anything. 

But you as this being can still increase mindfulness over thoughts. Not to stop them, but to become AWARE of their illusory existential nature.

When you are aware, you can experience reality - raw perception - literally  and you will avoid taking your thoughts too seriously. The problem is not thoughts, but the meaning we give them and the actions we take as a result. Focus on becoming aware of that. 

Know it has been said 1 million times, but meditation can help you here. Watch Leo's videos on meditation for more info on that and start doing it daily. 

 

[Matthew Lamot]

28 minutes ago, Christian said:

Why? There is no self to control anything. 

But you as this being can still increase mindfulness over thoughts. Not to stop them, but to become AWARE

When you are aware, you can experience reality - raw perception. Focus on becoming aware of that. 

The perception of thought is still ego.  Who is watching the perceiver of the thoughts?

Mindfulness is a subtle ego.  

It is true once mindfulness has been achieved, you can netti netti the body of energy that is mindful.  

Keep going until there is nothing, not even a perceiver.

[Gabriel David Gomez]

Try. Thought about thought is only more thought. Without thought the animal instincts wouldn't allow you to move because you could not discern. This is why people become frozen in fear upon excitement, they become dumbfounded. Dumbfoundedness is simply loss of train of thought and not knowing how to respond (which would be the result of no thought. So, therefore, you are wrong. The existence of the self is obvious because of the doer of your actions. If you chop off your hand, the "you" still exists. If you lose a portion of your brain, the "you" still exists. Therefore, movement from you evidences the "self" and because movement is not spiritually bad, obviously you have a wrong interpretation of what value the go is or a wrong definition. I find that subconscious movement is actually really quickly chosen conscious movements. They often happen because people consider habitually enacted techniques because they refuse to endure the slightest of suffering. But suffering is of the mind whereas pain is of the body. So it is naturally insane to physically respond as an interaction with or fix for a psychological condition (like suffering). So there is no harm and yet a fix in actually doing my advice rather than criticizing it. What i thought was subconscious movement actually turned out to be really quickly chosen conscious movements when my consciousness increased and I became more aware. 

[Gabriel David Gomez]

I personally know that you are wrong by experience. I know that by videotape my body made only movements i remember making, rather than movements I was unaware of. I do have free will even though some may say otherwise. My book deals much with this and maybe I'll get noticed because of my work. I already solved the age old question "do we live in the best of all possible worlds"

[Matthew Lamot]

17 minutes ago, Gabriel David Gomez said:

I do have free will even though some may say otherwise. 

Of course you have free will.  From the POV of the Jiva this is correct.  From the POV of the Self, no, there is not free will.  Anybody who doesn't respect these two truths only has half a teaching, therefore an ineffective teaching too

[Gabriel David Gomez]

Anyone with suggestions or a note of their experience of practicing this material is welcomed.

[Beam]

Gabe your first post is what people are practicing to be a better person ,  in meditation one practices mindfulness to become familiar with it so we can practice it in our daily lives / interactions with people.

Your right on the button , but its the same button everyone uses. Claiming you wrote it seems a little brash imo , no disrespect intended its something I noticed. 

I don't mean to hurt your pride instead I mean to open your eyes to others opinions

Edited August 20, 2016 by Beam