Is Red Pill Bullshit ?

[Leo Gura]

45 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

One can see this from miles away, even in your profile photo.

Cool it with the personal attacks.

[coca]

@Preety_India While I do not condone the personal attacks, I believe the reason Leo didn't address @Recursoinominado  's other point is because hes totally right, its obvious you are VERY resentful towards men. Instead of further avoiding the situation, I believe it would be mature and reflective of the pillars of self actualization if you took the time to reflect and address your own resentment, as reading your posts produces a lot of irony. 

[Guest SirVladimir]

On 23. 9. 2020 at 10:31 AM, Preety_India said:

You're a new number of this forum and I respect you but I'm a very old member on this forum, been here for years.

Did you just invent an artifical hierarchy based on who came first and second? 

"Obey the Elders!"

I love you, and I love your replies which carry a ton of misunderstood hate. I hope you're able to love and embrace those Redpill guys too.

Edited September 24, 2020 by SirVladimir

[Preety_India]

@coca  this is not true at all. I have no resentment towards men 

 

The people who come from the red pill forum spread a lot of hate against women on here. You can obviously see with the personal attacks. I'm only standing up against something that is hateful. They stereotype all women. How is that not hateful? 

When you tell them a different opinion, they never agree but resort to personal attacks. 

Men are good. And men are fine. But some men who have experienced rejection hate all women. 

I'm constantly being made to shut down by making up this false claim that I'm resentful towards men when it's these men who are constantly expressing their resentment towards women 

It baffles me that just asking for respect for an entire gender is called "being resentful".. I get along completely fine with men who are civil and understanding with me. 

But I'm not fine with someone who is being disrespectful. How many times do I have to repeat this. 

Notice that I am objecting to a philosophy and not making any personal attacks against anyone. 

The point that I'm trying to make is never discussed. Instead the focus is constantly being shifted on me. This is a deflection tactic. This is no argument to say that I'm hateful to men and label me and put me away. Instead of that debate my point. 

My point is that stereotyping is wrong. Can you see that? 

Most red pill men come here and say things like "I'm never going to trust women" "women are manipulative" "women are evil"..... Do you see that this is classifying an entire gender as evil or worthless 

To me as a woman this is extremely hurtful. So when I stand against it, how does it imply that I'm resentful to men. 

So a woman complaining about being stereotyped is resentful to men? 

This is like calling a person abusive for complaining about abuse. Can you see this circular thinking. 

I am extremely polite and civil with most people. Even if he made personal attacks at me I remained civil. 

But somebody has to talk about how vicious this woman hating thing is. How is demonizing all women healthy. 

If I said all men were bad then you can say that I'm being resentful and I can obviously agree. But I always say that disrespectful men need to be called out on their disrespectful behavior, how is that being resentful towards all men? 

Red pill is a toxic philosophy otherwise it would have been allowed on the forum. 

Leo has himself locked multiple threads that promote Red Pill. Why is that so? 

Please debate the points instead of resorting to personal attacks 

It's very easy to say to a woman that she is resentful to men instead of arguing her point. 

Debate point with point. Many users have already agreed that Red Pill philosophy is hateful and is also conducive to other hateful philosophies like Homo phobia and holocaust denial.. Another member also admitted to this. 

Maybe try debating Leo instead of debating and you'll get to know what's his opinion on this subject . 

I can attack screenshots and show what @Leo Gura has said in the past on this topic. 

Calling me names and attaching labels to me is a free way of attacking me but sorry it doesn't hold any water under scrutiny. 

Instead of scapegoating me and making me look bad, try to come up with points in a logical way to debate my points. 

I can show you screenshots of people from red pill communities condoning rape of women. 

I have no problem with men at all. But it the specific men from these groups that come here to disrupt the harmony between men and women. 

I'm not the one creating a gender war so don't put words in my mouth. I'm calling for unity between men and women and clearly that cannot happen if a Red Pill person stereotypes all women. 

But you'll clearly disagree with me because calling me a man hater is an easy escape from a conversation. 

Any woman who tries to stand up or challenge a social paradigm set up by a group of men is easily called "resentful" or "man-hater" because that's the easiest cop out, lay blame on her and make everything personal. 

Sorry but it's lame and doesn't work mate. 

Instead of focusing on me, focus on my points. 

I'm made the scapegoat here because I'm the only lone woman fighting the battle for the good, fighting the good battle. 

You think that I'm weak and that's you want to attack the weakest link in the debate. Why don't you debate some of the users here who say the same things that I say. Because attacking me so easy right? 

I completely understand that some resentment can come out of being mistreated by a girlfriend/wife in a relationship, should that be the foundation to stereotype all women? Answer that. 

 

 

 

[Preety_India]

 

35 minutes ago, SirVladimir said:

Did you just invent an artifical hierarchy based on who came first and second? 

"Obey the Elders!"

I love you, and I love your replies which carry a ton of misunderstood hate. I hope you're able to love and embrace those Redpill guys too.

Look at how you are projecting and completely taking me out of context and applying a negativity to it. 

When I said that to her, I did not mean it in an authoritative way. But go ahead and take me out of context as long as it serves your purpose. 

The intention was never to scream "obey the elders" as you're making it out to be 

The intention was to tell her that I am an old member and so I have seen things on this forum that she hasn't yet seen and might see in the future. It was never meant to tell her to obey anything. Just to tell her that I have experienced certain things on here that she may not be aware of since she is a new member. 

Had she been an old member like me, she would have easily understood why I was so outraged seeing the support for Red Pill 

But I completely understand your desire to make me look bad and take everything out of context and attach a negative meaning to it. 

I can't love a hateful philosophy I'm sorry. I can't endorse the Red Pill Guys. You can't tell me to embrace Nazism. 

 

Alright I'm kinda fed up with these constant attacks. All I did was to muster the courage to ask for respect for women in this section of the forum and I'm being hated for that. How about Embracing me??? 

I'm done. 

If you think Red Pill is healthy, I'm totally done with the Dating Section of the Forum. I'm fed up with the attacks. I lose. 

I can only take so much. Been here for more than 2 years and watching this constant barrage of red pill threads demonizing women and a new thread comes up everyday. 

I tried to take a stance against this toxic philosophy and now I'm the Number one Target. 

This is why people don't bother to stand up against anything that is toxic or bad in society. 

If the objective is to portray me as a man hater instead of focusing on my point, then the point is lost. It's pointless to make any point. 

That was my last thread. I tried to make a brave powerful stance that we as women dont need to be degraded just because a few men had bad experiences with a couple of women. 

I wish you good luck. 

I did my job. I'm done with this section. I'll never come here again ever.

 

Bye. 

 

 

 

Edited September 24, 2020 by Preety_India

[Recursoinominado]

18 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

They stereotype all women.

You are kind of stereotyping all RP men as this monster you made up in your own head.

19 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

When you tell them a different opinion, they never agree but resort to personal attacks. 

I am sorry if you feel personally attacked, it was not cool from my part, i wanted to trigger you a bit more and that's not ok. I mean, i am not wrong, but i can see how this can be unnecessary and hurtful. Therefore, i am sorry.

22 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

It baffles me that just asking for respect for an entire gender is called "being resentful".

You are not "asking for respect", you are making a lot of serious assumptions of something you know nothing about. 

"Holocaust deniers" WTF! lol

I have been visiting the reddit's Red Pill community daily for, at least, 6 years, this is probably the biggest RP community on the internet and i NEVER saw ANYTHING about holocaust or racist or even homophobic. This is simply a non-issue in the community, which is mostly dedicated to helping young men with dating and life in general, the most popular suggestion there is: work on yourself. Which is pretty reasonable. 

29 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

Notice that I am objecting to a philosophy and not making any personal attacks against anyone. 

I would LOVE to debate the RP theory but that's NOT what you are doing AT ALL. You are attacking a whole community, especially the MEN in that community, not the "philosophy".

Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/

Read the sidebar material, show me ONE point about the holocaust denial, homophobia and racism. 

Inform yourself and come here with reasonable points, not general platitudes, and false shocking statements. 

[Guest SirVladimir]

22 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

I can't love a hateful philosophy I'm sorry. I can't endorse the Red Pill Guys. You can't tell me to embrace Nazism.

No, I can't tell you. But that's exactly what you need to do for the wound to heal!

Maybe if you were here, I could show you that I embrace you. That I really do.

I haven't even studied Red Pill, ever. I'm giving you a universal manual instead. When you come across such a guy, treat him with pure selfless love. He lacks it.

Leo's video about Forgiveness is powerful for this.

[Amit]

Red pill is bullshit, patriarchy is bullshit, feminism is bullshit, socialism is bullshit, capitalism is bullshit... Any philosophy or ideology which tries to contain the infinity into finity is bullshit... As we're talking red pill, it has its purpose just like porn has its own purpose, killing someone for food has a purpose. 

Red pill excludes feminine and sees the world from a shallow, lusty lens, but it's a state of consciousness... Untill it manifests as a crime or something like that, we've to trust the process of evolution in the red pillers and give them chances.. 

Lastly this quote summarise the whole red pill cult, now only the men who had no chance and completely ignorant about woman will fall for it, and what will cure him is feeling of love and experience of sex, not ranting against this ideology. 

"A woman is a lock and a man is a key. If a key opens a lot of locks, it is a master key. But if one lock is opened by lots of keys, it is a dodgy lock."  - reddit/redpill 

[Chumbimba]

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[Leo Gura]

Reminder: spreading of Red Pill ideology on this forum is not allowed.

You can discuss Red Pill as a social phenomenon, but we will not be seriously discussing the merits of this toxic ideology. Just because an ideology has a few nuggets of truth does not mean we take it seriously here. We hold ourselves to a higher standard.

[Danioover9000]

@evgn

On 9/23/2020 at 8:20 AM, evgn said:

I agree that red pill is toxic and i am against war between genders.

But there are also a lot of women out there who hate men,

One girl (friend of mine) were very good girl when i met  her 5 years ago. Fast forward to nowdays, this girl has become complete bitch, she is manipulative and disrespectful. Her agenda is to broke as many men hearts as possible. WTF is that? And there are a lot of girls like her out there.

   Those characteristics are exactly those that were exhibited in that female bully in my past, but that one was bloody sadistic. 

[StarStruck]

On 23-9-2020 at 0:17 AM, Onemanwolfpac said:

 

There is a huge divide between the top form man who is getting all the action versus the rest who do not get any play. Haters going to hate.

Let's play devils advocate. As a bachelor, high value male, got options, and things going on. When I see bezo get divorced for BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, I got think why would any man play that game? Dre on a divorce and ex wants 2 million PER MONTH? When you look at the distribution of male resources and child custody, I double down on bachelor life. The alternative seems like a negative free roll. The stats are appalling. More so by gender and again college educated interestingly enough.

I got picked up at the beach by cute young girl. age 18. Cost? free.

Just wait until you hit 30/40 year old age, and you begin to lose your looks. Good luck being the 40 year old at parties. lol

[hoodrow trillson]

On 9/24/2020 at 6:04 PM, StarStruck said:

Just wait until you hit 30/40 year old age, and you begin to lose your looks. Good luck being the 40 year old at parties. lol

This is a fantasy.

If you take care of yourself you can absolutely be the cool guy in his 40s at a party.  Depending on how you look like now, your genetics and how you take care of yourself (avoiding drugs for example) some can slay into their 60s.  Your assumption is based on going to a party looking for a specific outcome lol nice try.  

If you're on your spiritual path, you won't give a shit if you're the 100 year old at a party and neither will anyone else.

 

[Thestarguitarist14]

27 minutes ago, hoodrow trillson said:

This is a fantasy.

If you take care of yourself you can absolutely be the cool guy in his 40s at a party.  Depending on how you look like now, your genetics and how you take care of yourself (avoiding drugs for example) some can slay into their 60s.  Your assumption is based on going to a party looking for a specific outcome lol nice try.  

If you're on your spiritual path, you won't give a shit if you're the 100 year old at a party and neither will anyone else.

 

If you truly are on your spiritual path, you won’t be partying much, if at all.  Like I don’t see Jim Carrey or Rivers Cuomo (celebrities who openly practice spirituality and Jim Carrey has talked about using law of attraction to kick his career in high gear.  Rivers goes to Japan for months of straight meditation and practices Vipassana meditation for two hours daily) doing much partying nowadays.

Edited September 26, 2020 by Thestarguitarist14

[hoodrow trillson]

49 minutes ago, Thestarguitarist14 said:

If you truly are on your spiritual path, you won’t be partying much, if at all.  Like I don’t see Jim Carrey or Rivers Cuomo (celebrities who openly practice spirituality and Jim Carrey has talked about using law of attraction to kick his career in high gear.  Rivers goes to Japan for months of straight meditation and practices Vipassana meditation for two hours daily) doing much partying nowadays.

You know what I meant when I say partying, I'm not talking frat parties here.  Even monks enjoy some time with friends.

[Arcangelo]

No, it is not bullshit.

On 9/22/2020 at 4:42 PM, Parththakkar12 said:

Here's the kernel of truth in redpill - Biologically, the whole notion of 'survival of the fittest' or 'passing down your genes' is true. If we look at it strictly from a zero-sum game biological perspective, women want to bear the child of the most powerful and successful men so that their genes can be passed down.

 

I don't get why some people have such a hard time understanding this^

[Globalcollective]

8 hours ago, Arcangelo said:

No, it is not bullshit.

 

I don't get why some people have such a hard time understanding this^

Because reality and humans are way more complex and nuanced to understand under the lens of biology and being rational. If anything it blinds you from the real truth. Isn't this one of the main messages of  the forum? "I don't get why some people have such a hard time understanding this" ?

When I was younger and first heard about red pill ideas I would always look out for this with my girlfriends and not once did I ever see any of them behave in ways red pill said they should. Maybe its because there is such a thing as conciseness and love? sometimes women are able to transcend there desires for the love they have for there man. 

At the end of the day red pill is just another excuse to play the victim and not take action on improving your circumstances in this area. 

Remember suffering is a choice ✌️

Edited September 29, 2020 by Globalcollective

[Sri McDonald Trump Maharaj]

I've noticed that most people who disagree with the redpill end up doing ad hominem arguments instead of actually debunking the claims or finding out which claims are actually true.

[Globalcollective]

2 hours ago, Sri McDonald Trump Maharaj said:

I've noticed that most people who disagree with the redpill end up doing ad hominem arguments instead of actually debunking the claims or finding out which claims are actually true.

Ive also noticed that most people who relate to red pill have unsuccessful relationships and inabilities to relate to women and use this toxic theory to scapegoat the problem rather than do the work to fix it. Which is by no means easy. 

I tell you what why don't you go speak to a 5000 women and date a couple of hundred of them and see for yourself, then it would be undeniable?

I did this, it was stupid I know. When I was young I got wrapped up in rsd and pick up which had its own flaws but I did manage to see the truth of this for myself. 

Id say about 30% of the girls fit the red pill ideas, they would date up if they had the chance and also sleep with the Alpha whilst dating the beta ect. But ultimately the real problem was the fact most men are terrible at relating to women in a sexual way and being emotional secure in themself's which just turns women off making them stray elsewhere. But if you get your act together women would do anything to be with you and be more loyal then they get credit for. 

Also the more conscious you become the more you can spot dishonest cheaters ect.

The red pill is about as toxic as you could get second only to incels and black pill. 

[Sri McDonald Trump Maharaj]

3 hours ago, Globalcollective said:

Ive also noticed that most people who relate to red pill have unsuccessful relationships and inabilities to relate to women and use this toxic theory to scapegoat the problem rather than do the work to fix it. 

Agreed!