Social Control and "The Greater Good"

[Tim R]

I highly recommend you to watch this video.

This topic I think is now more important than ever since about 75 years.

Great, great video. Some high quality stuff. The channel "Academy of ideas" is absolutely top notch when it comes to psychology and society.

 

[Preety_India]

 

The video sounds  like anti-immigration agenda to me 

Another form of social control.. 

 

[Forestluv]

Catnip for Libertarians

[Fran11]

- Not only the concept of "society" can be deconstructed, but also the concept of "individual". To deny this is ignorance and libertarian bias.

- The "sacrificial lamb" characterization is an overly exaggerated one to appy to modern developed societies.

- The "live and let live" philosophy is very simplistic. Our individual actions always affect others at least indirectly. It's all interconnected.

Individualism is important of course, but to glorify individualism as the ultimate goal becomes as toxic as glorifying colectivism.

Edited September 22, 2020 by Fran11

[Tim R]

14 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

 

The video sounds  like anti-immigration agenda to me 

Another form of social control.. 

 

How so??

[Preety_India]

Just now, Tim R said:

How so??

Why are the comments constantly about cultural Marxism. What is the video covertly trying to hint at? That the current culture of multiculturalism is being peddled as the "greater good" and is the video trying to go against that by masking the narrative using the example of Marxist fascism of Stalin and not buying into the elite rhetoric? 

So what's the deal here? 

Who is the maker  of the video taking a swing at? 

 

[DrewNows]

45 minutes ago, Forestluv said:

Catnip for Libertarians

try humanitarians  

@Preety_India maybe the agenda is simply to expose the shadows created within and of society

These are important ideas or perspectives to be considered when constructing new systems. It's 2020, time to see clearly and to use more expanded perspectives to support the true values/needs of human 

43 minutes ago, Fran11 said:

Individualism is important of course, but to glorify individualism as the ultimate goal becomes as toxic as glorifying colectivism.

toxicity comes in polarity 

"it is no measure of health to be well adjusted to an profoundly sick society" Jiddu Krishnamurti 

Edited September 22, 2020 by DrewNows

[Danioover9000]

@Tim R

1 hour ago, Tim R said:

I highly recommend you to watch this video.

This topic I think is now more important than ever since about 75 years.

Great, great video. Some high quality stuff. The channel "Academy of ideas" is absolutely top notch when it comes to psychology and society.

 

   Excellent share. I've watched many of his videos, and this one, of you can look past the libertarianism, it points to the true self.

[Danioover9000]

@DrewNows

Just now, DrewNows said:

try humanitarians  

@Preety_India maybe the agenda is simply to expose the shadows created within and of society

These are important ideas or perspectives to be considered when constructing new systems. It's 2020, time to see clearly and to use more expanded perspectives to support the true values/needs of human 

toxicity comes in polarity 

   Yes, being at either ends of a spectrum can be too much. In the video, there are hints at your true self, and how other people, systems and things revolve around that point.

[Forestluv]

7 minutes ago, DrewNows said:

try humanitarians  

It is promoting personal rights and freedoms - not at the human level. At the human level, an anti-government position would be more like an anarchist commune in which there is no governmental authority, yet there is shared responsibilities and processions. Libertarians don’t like that stuff. 

[Danioover9000]

@Preety_India

42 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

Why are the comments constantly about cultural Marxism. What is the video covertly trying to hint at? That the current culture of multiculturalism is being peddled as the "greater good" and is the video trying to go against that by masking the narrative using the example of Marxist fascism of Stalin and not buying into the elite rhetoric? 

So what's the deal here? 

Who is the maker  of the video taking a swing at? 

 

   He's taking a swing at both cultural Marxism, Marxist fascism and communism, and when it becomes too collectivistic and less individualistic. 

[DrewNows]

1 minute ago, Forestluv said:

It is promoting personal rights and freedoms - not at the human level. At the human level, an anti-government position would be more like an anarchist commune in which there is no governmental authority, yet there is shared responsibilities and processions. Libertarians don’t like that stuff. 

i hate all these terms, to take it out of personal context, seeing with a more expanded "i" then it is shedding light on the darker aspects of social control

[Forestluv]

6 minutes ago, DrewNows said:

i hate all these terms, to take it out of personal context, seeing with a more expanded "i" then it is shedding light on the darker aspects of social control

I’m not saying it is good, bad or better. I am just drawing distinctions for clarity. Libertarianism is very self-centered. For example, they are very into personal property and possessions. An anarchist commune is similar in that they don’t like a higher authority telling them what to do. Each person should be free to express their true nature. Yet an AC is much more community centered. I lived in one briefly and it was very different. I couldn’t tell whose kids were whose because parenting responsibilities were so shared. People left their homes open and you could walk in and use each other’s stuff. One time, I tried to be respectful and asked a guy if I could use his coffee press and some of his coffee. It took him a couple seconds to understand what I was asking. He responded as if I asked “Is it ok if I breathe some air while in your home?”. They don’t have a strong sense of personal possessions. 

[Preety_India]

1 hour ago, Fran11 said:

Individualism is important of course, but to glorify individualism as the ultimate goal becomes as toxic as glorifying colectivism.

I agree with this. Good point. 

 

 

25 minutes ago, DrewNows said:

maybe the agenda is simply to expose the shadows created within and of society

These are important ideas or perspectives to be considered when constructing new systems. It's 2020, time to see clearly and to use more expanded perspectives to support the true values/needs of human 

I believe in creating a fair system, good for all human beings. We cannot live in peace meanwhile seeing and ignoring the suffering of others. 

 

Now coming to the video, I'm not so sure what the covert message of the video is. But the comment section put me completely off. 

Also I researched a bit about this channel. It seems Google demonetized one of the videos for being controversial. 

And the comment in support of the video was some anti-semitic bullshit. 

I don't consider this academic at all.

Below are a set of comments. That I find not very liberal or open minded. 

This particular comment made me think that it had an anti-immigration sentiment. Anti-diversity 

 

 

 

This comment really made me not buy into that YouTuber's video, considering there is so much radicalization, hate mongering and misinformation based brainwashing propagandist content being peddled on YouTube. 

 

 

Sorry but I don't wish to be brainwashed. 

From my end, the video gets a thumbs down. 

 

[Danioover9000]

8 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

I agree with this. Good point. 

 

 

I believe in creating a fair system, good for all human beings. We cannot live in peace meanwhile seeing and ignoring the suffering of others. 

 

Now coming to the video, I'm not so sure what the covert message of the video is. But the comment section put me completely off. 

Also I researched a bit about this channel. It seems Google demonetized one of the videos for being controversial. 

And the comment in support of the video was some anti-semitic bullshit. 

I don't consider this academic at all.

Below are a set of comments. That I find not very liberal or open minded. 

This particular comment made me think that it had an anti-immigration sentiment. Anti-diversity 

 

 

 

This comment really made me not buy into that YouTuber's video, considering there is so much radicalization, hate mongering and misinformation based brainwashing propagandist content being peddled on YouTube. 

 

 

Sorry but I don't wish to be brainwashed. 

From my end, the video gets a thumbs down. 

 

   Really, your view on the video soured over some commentors?

[DrewNows]

@Forestluv that’s cool it just seemed like assumed position 

cool story, doesn’t sound like they had or valued ownership for material possessions

41 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

I believe in creating a fair system, good for all human beings. We cannot live in peace meanwhile seeing and ignoring the suffering of others. 

you say this as if we have a choice in the matter. Compassion is good, it gives space, but empathy is often used at the detriment of the Individual. People need suffering, it’s the karma of the times.

A humanitarian has to acknowledge the whole, expose corruption, empower the individual, create space for the suffering and tools to sustain the integration process

if you fear being brainwashed then perhaps that’s creating this division/separation in perspective. Everything we see is used as a tool for self development/expansion and shedding light on our relationship with ourselves 

[Preety_India]

@DrewNows good for  you. 

 

[Leo Gura]

When people start talking negatively about "the greater good", watch out that they aren't merely trying to place the greater good of society with "what's best for me personally".

The notion of a greater good can be turned into evil, but so can the notion of "freedom" and only looking out for oneself.

[DrewNows]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

When people start talking negatively about "the greater good", watch out that they aren't merely trying to place the greater good of society with "what's best for me personally".

The notion of a greater good can be turned into evil, but so can the notion of "freedom" and only looking out for oneself.

What are you, promoting fear? When you’re unable to detach from the game it’s hard to accept there’s a positive and negative to every view/position 

@Preety_India it’s not about me but okay, whatever feels comfortable to believe... 

[Leo Gura]

39 minutes ago, DrewNows said:

What are you, promoting fear?

No, I am pointing out an obvious trap the devil has laid for you.

Just because positive and negative are relative does not mean we have to resign ourselves to being devils, or treat devilry as though it were on par with wisdom, selflessness, truth, love, and consciousness.

Learn to differentiate bullshit, bias, selfishness, and devilry.

A libertarian argument is not one of consciousness or deep intelligence, it is an argument from ignorance and selfishness.