What is the lie?

[Knowledge]

If there is an objective absolute truth, there must be an objective absolute lie, so what is it?

[Mafortu]

if nothing is true, then everything is a lie

[Someone here]

You are confusing the actuality level with the conceptual level. The map is not the territory. But also it is lol.  The meaning of absolute =has no opposite.  If there is an absolute "anything".. Then it's absolute "everything". So it becomes Indistinguishable from it's opposite. 

The absolute truth is EVERYTHING. And the absolute "lie" is "everything" ?

[eputkonen]

On 9/20/2020 at 3:13 PM, Knowledge said:

If there is an objective absolute truth, there must be an objective absolute lie, so what is it?

Not so.  For the truth is fundamentally something that is.  A lie is fundamentally something that is not. 

Something that is can be an absolute or be objective, but what is not...only imagined...can only be subjective.

Edited September 21, 2020 by eputkonen

[mandyjw]

Well there's no duality, so truth and false are a duality, they rely on having an opposite to exist within the mind. Outside the mind there is no love or hate, just Love. There's no truth/false, just Love. The love of truth is a powerful thing, because truth is equal to and the same as Love. Love is neither real nor unreal, neither true or false. So being afraid of lies and trying to avoid what's false will never get you Truth, but the love of it will. 

[tsuki]

15 hours ago, Knowledge said:

If there is an objective absolute truth, there must be an objective absolute lie, so what is it?

The existence of something does not imply the existence of its opposite.
Being is, while nothing isn't.

[Yog]

inauthenticity is the closest I can get.

A bit deeper, I see all forms of expression as forms of truth, the very substance things are made off is.... "truth", its evident, in that sense, I do not see a lie in existence.

But seeing inauthenticity as lying and being authentic as truthful can get one far on the spiritual path.

 

Edited September 21, 2020 by Yog

[blankisomeone]

there is only truth

[Leo Gura]

Not worthy of further discussion.