Enlightenment without Psychedelics

[zeroISinfinity]

Enlightenment without psychedelics is not possible. 

Hey trying to become mod here. 

[Raven1998]

1 minute ago, zeroISinfinity said:

Enlightenment without psychedelics is not possible. 

Hey trying to become mod here. 

it is possible. there are so many peoles enlightened without psychedelic ? the buddha, sadhguru, rupert spira, eckhart tolle, they didnt use psychedelic 

[zeroISinfinity]

Well not really into Sadhguru more into this guy. My dirty secrets exposed like Aqua songs. 

[Raven1998]

43 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

Well not really into Sadhguru more into this guy. My dirty secrets exposed like Aqua songs. 

to me, it is ridiculous to say that enlightenment is not possible without psychedelic.. you dont need anything to be yourself.. ?

[Moksha]

To be fair, I haven't heard anyone insist that psychedelics are necessary for enlightenment. They just see them as a tool for unlocking the hive mind, and Consciously diving past the interface and into the hardware itself.

I agree though. Psychedelics aren't necessary, and many people have woken up without them.

Edited November 19, 2020 by Moksha

[Breakingthewall]

On 17/11/2020 at 11:11 PM, mandyjw said:

One person's revelation is another's cliché. 

Well said, good sentence to remember

[zeroISinfinity]

Well I said I want to be mod here. So will stick with psychedelics. Sorry. 

[arlin]

i think enlightenment is possible without psychs. Look at frank yang..

@Raven1998 Do you feel like it's you thinking thoughts? or making decisions?

Or they happen on their own and you ara aware of them?

Basically, are you in a no free will state?

[Raven1998]

10 hours ago, arlin said:

i think enlightenment is possible without psychs. Look at frank yang..

@Raven1998 Do you feel like it's you thinking thoughts? or making decisions?

Or they happen on their own and you ara aware of them?

Basically, are you in a no free will state?

i am aware of them. but i cant separate known and knowing of it.. its closer than close..

[arlin]

@Raven1998 do you actually experience not having free will right now, yes?