Converatios With God - Time - Need Help

[John Mitchell]

I wondered about thie passage here a lot. It seems like what is first described is just observing something later because of the speed of light (what hads this to do with time?), then it goes on about how a week is a construct (duh), some basic Einstein and that somehow should conclude that time does not exist. Maybe I just dont get it, but it seems like the first stuff is just there to sound smart and confuse the reader so he just buys the conclusion. Maybe someone with more experiece can explain.

 A "What is time" video would be nice @Leo Gura

 

 

Your science has already proven this mathematically. Formulas have been written showing that if you get into a spaceship and fly far enough fast enough, you could swing back around toward the Earth and watch yourself taking off.

 

This demonstrates that Time is not a movement but a field through which you move—in this case on Spaceship Earth. You say it takes 365 “days” to make a year. Yet what is a “day”? You’ve decided—quite arbitrarily, I might add—that a “day” is the “time” it takes your Spaceship to make one complete revolution on its axis.

 

How do you know it’s made such a spin? (You can’t feel it moving!) You’ve chosen a reference point in the heavens— the Sun. You say it takes a full “day” for the portion of the Spaceship you are on to face the Sun, turn away from the Sun, then face the Sun again.

 

You’ve divided this “day” into 24 “hours”—again quite arbitrarily. You could just as easily have said “10” or “73”!

 

Then you divided each “hour” into “minutes.” You said each hourly unit contained 60 smaller units, called “minutes”—and that each of those contained 60 tiny units, called “seconds.”

 

One day you noticed that the Earth was not only spinning, it was also flying! You saw that it was moving through space around the sun.

 

You carefully calculated that it took 365 revolutions of the Earth for the Earth itself to revolve around the sun. This number of Earth spins you called a “year.”

 

Things got kind of messy when you decided that you wanted to divide up a “year” into units smaller than a “year” but larger than a “day.”

 

You created the “week” and the “month,” and you managed to get the same number of months in every year, but not the same number of days in every month.

 

You couldn’t find a way to divide an odd number of days (365) by an even number of months (12), so you just decided that some months contained more days than others!

 

You felt you had to stay with twelve as the yearly sub-divider because that was the number of Lunar Cycles you observed your moon moving through during a “year.” In order to reconcile these three spatial events—revolutions around the sun, spins of the Earth on its axis, and moon cycles—you simply adjusted the number of “days” in each “month.”

 

Even this device didn’t solve all the problems because your earlier inventions kept creating a “build up” of “time” which you didn’t know what to do with. So you also decided that every so often one year would have to have a whole day more! You called this Leap Year, and joked about it, but you actually live by such a construction—and then you call My explanation of time “unbelievable”!

 

You’ve just as arbitrarily created “decades” and “centuries”

 

(based, interestingly, on 10′s, not 12′s) to further measure the passage of “time”—but all along what you’ve really been doing is merely devising a way to measure movements through space.

 

Thus we see that it is not time which “passes,” but objects which pass through, and move around in, a static field which you call space. “Time” is simply your way of counting movements!

 

Scientists deeply understand this connection and therefore speak in terms of the “Space-Time Continuum.” Your Dr. Einstein and others realized that time was a mental construction, a relational concept. “Time” was what it was relative to the space that existed between objects! (If the universe is expanding—which it is—then it takes “longer” for the Earth to revolve around the sun today than it did a billion years ago. There’s more “space” to cover.)

 

Thus, it took more minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years, decades, and centuries for all these cyclical events to occur recently than it did in 1492! (When is a “day” not a day? When is a “year” not a year?)

 

Your new, highly sophisticated timing instruments now record this “time” discrepancy, and every year clocks around the world are adjusted to accommodate a universe that won’t sit still! This is called Greenwich Mean Time… and it is “mean” because it makes a liar out of the universe!

 

Einstein theorized that if it wasn’t “time” which was moving, but he who was moving through space at a given rate, all he had to do was change the amount of space between objects —or change the rate of speed with which he moved through space from one object to another—to “alter” time.

 

It was his General Theory of Relativity which expanded your modern day understanding of the co-relation between time and space.

 

You now may begin to understand why, if you make a long journey through space and return, you may have aged only ten years—while your friends on Earth will have aged thirty! The farther you go, the more you will warp the Space-Time Continuum, and the less your chances when you land of finding alive on the Earth anyone who was there when you left!

 

However, if scientists on Earth in some “future” time developed a way to propel themselves faster, they could “cheat” the universe and stay in sync with “real time” on Earth, returning to find that the same time had passed on Earth as had passed on the Spaceship.

 

Obviously, if even more propulsion were available, one could return to the Earth before one took off! That is to say, time on Earth would pass more slowly than time on the spaceship. You could come back in ten of your “years” and the Earth would have “aged” only four! Increase the speed, and ten years in space might mean ten minutes on Earth.

 

Now, come across a “fold” in the fabric of space (Einstein and others believed such “folds” exist—and they were correct!) and you are suddenly propelled across “space” in one infinitesimal “moment.” Could such a time-space phenomenon literally “fling” you back into “time”?

 

It should not be quite as difficult to now see that “time” does not exist except as a construction of your mentality. Everything that’s ever happened—and is ever going to happen—is happening now. The ability to observe it merely depends on your point of view—your “place in space.”

 

If you were in My place, you could see it All—right now! Comprehend?

Edited September 16, 2020 by John Mitchell

[Nahm]

@John Mitchell

Eternity through the lens of the finite mind sees itself, yet labels itself as “time”. If there is no time, truly it must follow, there could be no finite mind, and you are eternal. ‘Now’ can not come and go, eternity can not come & go. But what is infinite & formless can appear to come & go, eternally. 

[Gidiot]

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