David R. Hawkins was enlightened

[lmfao]

David would be writhing in his grave if he saw the state of conservatives today. His politics just shows ignorance or lack of knowledge. His lack of understanding causes him to project partial perspectives as a full picture.

He sees postmodernists and leftists, sees their ego as narcissistic. But all egos are narcissistic and self important. Then he selectively uses the domain of the absolute to invalidate one side but not the other. 

His muscle testing is what puts me off the most about him as well. I'm just amazed that someone like him is convinced of such a thing. But I shouldn't be too shocked, not all people and teachers are the same. He shows you a path of illumination regardless. 

I didn't buy his maps of consciousness book because I was apprehensive about this numerical model of his, but it is nonetheless referenced every few paragraphs in any book of his. I don't hate the model though, it's cool. I can't figure out how on earth I could validate such a thing. The exact sequences of things, the labels he gives. 

The only way the model could make sense is if your consciousness is distributed across multiple levels/numbers at once. But if ones psyche is that complex, then it will present itself in a confusing way, such that discerning whether the model holds or not practically unviable. 

^The same criticism can be levied against spiral dynamics, and the resolution to that applies here I guess. But to me personally this particular model is harder to see or grasp. 

Edited September 15, 2020 by lmfao

[oserra]

@Leo Gura but, what about his model about conscience levels? They are somehow quite similar to those of Susanne Cook-Greuter, don't you think? even though the method to measure them (muscle-testing) may not be very credible, the true is that his model is quite accurate too.

 

[Leo Gura]

6 hours ago, oserra said:

@Leo Gura but, what about his model about conscience levels? They are somehow quite similar to those of Susanne Cook-Greuter, don't you think? even though the method to measure them (muscle-testing) may not be very credible, the true is that his model is quite accurate too.

His consciousness model is interesting and somewhat useful, but I would not conflate it with Cook-Greuter's work. They are very different.

Any model that tries to map consciousness on a linear scale is extremely problematic. Conscious states are not at all linear or one-dimensional.