Is this moment happening or is it not happening?

[Gesundheit]

[Nahm]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

It's happening. Period. 

 The only thing that says it's not happening or maybe it's not happening is thought (oh what if I'm dreaming? .. what if I'm inside a simulation?.. oh relative and absolute.. oh Leo said this.. oh quantum mechanics says that bla bla bla) . Silence your bullshit-making machine called the mind and connect with (feeling) instead of (thoughts about feeling)and there is your answer.. You won't even need the question. 

Happening = is.   Not happening=is not. 

Thoughts can allow both is and is not. 

Feeling (direct experience) can only allow is. 

?  ?

Now have a look at perception. 

[James123]

@Mosess it is happening as nothing. Because all there is nothing. And nothing is happening. 

But strange phonemon is nothing can never happen. 

Therefore it happens at nothing, at the same time it doesn’t happen. Therefore nothing is absolute. 

[Mu_]

21 hours ago, Mosess said:

This shit got to a whole new level of confusion.. lol

Well, if its not Happening or Now, then what is taking place?  Its obvious "something", otherwise there wouldn't be anything to understand or ask such questions about.

[Dodo]

2 minutes ago, Mu_ said:

Well, if its not Happening or Now, then what is taking place?  Its obvious "something", otherwise there wouldn't be anything to understand or ask such questions about.

hmmmmmmmmm well it is now but nothing is happening. At the sharp present moment, not the story, there is only complete beautiful nothingness, but not the nothingness that the mind thinks 

[Mu_]

5 minutes ago, Dodo said:

hmmmmmmmmm well it is now but nothing is happening. At the sharp present moment, not the story, there is only complete beautiful nothingness, but not the nothingness that the mind thinks 

Sure, but that is not truely nothing, just a word used to point to something or happening as that something/nothing.  Again just words flowing in and as ".......".

[Mosess]

2 hours ago, Dodo said:

hmmmmmmmmm well it is now but nothing is happening. At the sharp present moment, not the story, there is only complete beautiful nothingness, but not the nothingness that the mind thinks 

Its not beautiful ?

[Someone here]

3 hours ago, Nahm said:

 Now have a look at perception. 

Perception as In a perceiver perceiving perceptions and separate from them  is a thought.. It implies duality.  This one is a huge mindfuck. When you realize you are no more you than you are your dog lol. 

[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, Mosess said:

Its not beautiful ?

Indeed it is.  What is beaitiful is that reality has absolutely no ground because it is One and thus Infinite.  It cannot reference itself because anything it could try to reference itself with is actually itself.  And because it cannot reference itself - it just IS itself.  See Leo's video "Reality is a Strange Loop". 

But to actually become directly conscious of this is to remove the illusory references to nothing we are making now and to actually BE it.  Pure Being.   And that my friend - well that is Divine bliss.

 

 

[Mosess]

2 hours ago, Mu_ said:

Well, if its not Happening or Now, then what is taking place?  Its obvious "something", otherwise there wouldn't be anything to understand or ask such questions about.

this moment is happening to you only.

 

 

 

[Mosess]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Indeed it is.  What is beaitiful is that reality has absolutely no ground because it is One and thus Infinite.  It cannot reference itself because anything it could try to reference itself with is actually itself.  And because it cannot reference itself - it just IS itself.  See Leo's video "Reality is a Strange Loop". 

But to actually become directly conscious of this it to remove the illusory references to nothing we are making now and to actually BE it.   And that my friend - well that is Divine Bliss.

 

 

Its not beautiful, its not ugly, its not bliss, its not suffering, its not a strange loop.

Nothing can define it

[Inliytened1]

24 minutes ago, Mosess said:

Its not beautiful, its not ugly, its not bliss, its not suffering, its not a strange loop.

Nothing can define it

It is possible to understand yourself completely.  You may lose it again - but it is.  But in that moment of Absolute understanding you must forgo that which is finite

 

[Carl-Richard]

50 minutes ago, Mosess said:

Its not beautiful

[RedLine]

the language is fucking weak, don´t ask too much to it

 

[Inliytened1]

11 minutes ago, RedLine said:

the language is fucking weak, don´t ask too much to it

 

Exactly. 

Language is dualistic and limited.  Truth IS.   Which is why this place is a lounge for discussion in between doing the practices.

[Mu_]

3 hours ago, Mosess said:

this moment is happening to you only.

 

 

 

Its happening as everything, not just you, or i.

[Martin123]

Instead of figuring out whether this moment is happening or not, perhaps consider the possibility that the reason why this moment can be witnessed is because it has already happened.
Had it not already happened, it couldn't be witnessed, because you cannot witness 'things that are not', and for a moment to be, it must have already been created.

Therefore the moment you are experiencing right now is only being experienced from a retrospect of your highest consciousness, that has already lived out the infinite possibilities of all your possible futures, and is witnessing this moment as a replay of its infinite expansion and experience. 

[Inliytened1]

25 minutes ago, Martin123 said:

Instead of figuring out whether this moment is happening or not, perhaps consider the possibility that the reason why this moment can be witnessed is because it has already happened.
Had it not already happened, it couldn't be witnessed, because you cannot witness 'things that are not', and for a moment to be, it must have already been created.

Therefore the moment you are experiencing right now is only being experienced from a retrospect of your highest consciousness, that has already lived out the infinite possibilities of all your possible futures, and is witnessing this moment as a replay of its infinite expansion and experience. 

Infinity is a motherfucker

 

[Dodo]

8 hours ago, Mosess said:

Its not beautiful ?

Its so incredibly beautiful, it is Love, God, Beauty beyond form

[Mosess]

13 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

It is possible to understand yourself completely.  You may lose it again - but it is.  But in that moment of Absolute understanding you must forgo that which is finite

 

There is no self to understand