"Money can't buy happiness"

[andyjohnsonman]

[Evil Raccoon]

Can’t explain it better than that.

[VerballyHazardous]

Don't take everything too literally, ofcourse money can get you all of that nice stuff. This quote is primary for people who earn money for money sake, hoping that once they attain a certain amount of wealth they would feel secure and fulfilled.

Edited September 8, 2020 by VerballyHazardous

[Tim R]

Many people say "well, money doesn't buy happiness, but it buys freedom and independence. And that's what makes me happy."

Leo says the same thing "[...] freedom to not be someone's else's bitch."

 

Well, what they don't get is that you become money's bitch. 

You become dependent upon money to stay independent regarding other domains. The problem therefore hasn't been solved entirely, just condensed and relocated. But yes, it's better than being poor...

Unless you're actually free and don't care whether you're poor or rich. Which is way more difficult to achieve than simply getting a job

[Gesundheit]

Money does not make any difference at all. Zero. Blank. Nothing.

As long as you're alive, you're going to have to submit to a higher power, regardless of what it is. Even if you are president of the United States, you're still going to have to deal with China and Russia and Kim Jong, and most likely, your wife ?

You are never going to be free. Freedom is an illusion. And there are no degrees of freedom. Even if you think you are relatively freer than someone who is in prison, you'd still be wrong. You will face challenges all the time. That means you're not free, because if you fail you will lose, and if you lose you will lose the "freedoms" you have. So basically you're stuck in a battle trying to keep your freedom from evaporating, while in fact your freedom has become your own prison.

[Leo Gura]

The deeper point is, no accomplishment within that pyramid will truly make you happy.

[UnbornTao]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

The deeper point is, no accomplishment within that pyramid will truly make you happy.

The blank space represents God. Now we’re talking.  

[Quader]

6 hours ago, Arzola said:

The blank space reprsents God. 

Yes but also everything else is representative of God. Which includes the pyramids, the blank space and all the delineations that are available in an emergent present which is similar to the blank space.

You fill that emptiness with contents which include Maslow's hierarchy. Not to say that it isn't a widely supported hierarchy, which it is and it's programmatic/pragmatic for many folks. If you can zoom out from the content of a linear progression/regression model you can see it for whatever it really is to you. Without getting too sucked into  dissonance you can see more of its properties and try to verify them in whatever way works for you and your intentions. 

[Hello from Russia]

Money can't buy happiness is bullshit. It certainly can.

I know the studies that after 100k income or something you no longer get happiness, but if you look at the research it says you will have declining returns on your happiness, not that you stop getting happier after you acquire more money. This means, if you get to 200k - you're likely to be more happy than if you had 100k income, but it just starts declining.

It just has its limits. It will get you to 6-7\10, but for 10\10 and above you'll need to apply other kind of things to get happiness. Doesn't mean that money can't still get you to 7. People use 7-10 journey and uselessness of money here to justify why they are stuck at 0-3\10 of happiness which is very wrong.

So much of happiness belongs on your well-being and it is almost impossible to feel well if you eat bad foods, live in the polluted area and in the polluted house, can't afford the gym, clean water, etc, which all can be easily obtained by money

Edited September 9, 2020 by Hello from Russia

[Heaven]

14 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The deeper point is, no accomplishment within that pyramid will truly make you happy.

Exactly my thoughts. This pyramid is wrong to  begin with. 
Sounds like a cliche but happiness comes from within. Nothing external will ever make you satisfied/full.

Don’t get me wrong, money is necessary in modern society and without it, it will be very hard to self actualized(to awake).

Contemplate deeper. What is happiness? 
 

[StephenK]

There is a weird crumbling of that hierarchy that occurs when an individual becomes awakened. Those that are awakened often have very little need for family, creative activities, intimate relationships, prestige and accomplishments, or even friends (all this depending on the degree of the awakening). Maslow's hierarchy of needs is meaningful in most cases with most people, but when awakening enters the picture, the hierarchy begins to fall apart and makes very little sense.

[Tim R]

16 minutes ago, StephenK said:

There is a weird crumbling of that hierarchy that occurs when an individual becomes awakened. Those that are awakened often have very little need for family, creative activities, intimate relationships, prestige and accomplishments, or even friends (all this depending on the degree of the awakening). Maslow's hierarchy of needs is meaningful in most cases with most people, but when awakening enters the picture, the hierarchy begins to fall apart and makes very little sense.

That's because the hierarchy is about Self-Actualization, whereas awakening the transcendence of the self implies... Thus, the hierarchy becomes obsolete

[StephenK]

@Tim R ?

[nitramadas]

Even if you could buy happiness.  So what? It's still gonna be nothing in comparison to enlightenment, and money can sure distract you from that.  Also, if you get some IT job because it pays well, you're gonna be stuck doing that for a long time.  Money should only ever be viewed as a bonus.  In any case, who enjoys money? The ego.  Do you want to live as the ego? Money, besides taking care of the essentials, just makes it more tempting to delay enlightenment. 

The general rule is: Go towards the pain. 

If it bothers you, good! Learn to enjoy it.  If you want money, that means you're not ready for it.  It will fulfil your desire temporarily, without giving you the chance to learn to fulfil those desires yourself.

Edited September 10, 2020 by nitramadas

[Someone here]

"Those who said money doesn't buy you happiness did not have enough money. "?

-Robert de Niro 

[allislove]

To have more than enough money feels damn good