Thoughts on men who have their girlfriends support them?

[electroBeam]

44 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

douchey asshole deadbeat guys who can't keep a job

This goes against your advice that you should have a strong life purpose and be self determined to be attractive to women.

You're basically saying "life purpose" has nothing to do with getting a girl to fall in love with you. 

 

And how can you take girls on adventures if you haven't got enough money(from not having a job) to take her on them?

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who fucks her real good and provides her an outlet to be playful and go on adventures.

Girls just wanna have fun

Surely that's relative to what you value. If the girl values children, she'd probably look for a guy whose stable. If she's a party type (like a lot of stage orange are, especially in Vegas) then yeah having fun is what you look for. 

But the hippies I hang out with, the girls there repetitively and consistently don't go out with "deadbeat, douchey asshole" guys who will just give them fun and good sex. They all seem to date and go for the guys who do yoga and defend the rainforest and are vegans. So what girls look for is actually relative to what they value themselves. 

Like none of the hippy girls I know are after the fun and playboy type of guys. Neither do I know any deeply conservative, islamic women looking for the playboy guys (the ones I'm friends with in developing countries). It only seems to be the British descendent type countries (UK, US, Australia and some parts of Canada) that seem to be into fun, playboy types of guys. 

Like no girls I know in China intentionally want to date the playboys. They all go for the super stable, super rich, super social status types of guys. 

And the islamic women go for the deeply conservative islamic guys. 

I think the idea that women are looking for playboys who give them good sex and fun is deeply specific to a type of culture (the orange stage liberal types of places).  

Edited September 8, 2020 by electroBeam

[Hello from Russia]

35 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Girls often fall in love for douchey asshole deadbeat guys who can't keep a job, but they give the girl emotional stimulation and adventure. That is sort of the player stereotype. The manwhore

I bet that a lot of professional women in their 30's and 40's who work boring corporate jobs but make good salaries would kill to have a player boyfriend who fucks her real good and provides her an outlet to be playful and go on adventures.

Girls just wanna have fun and feel their feminine side. Which the proper guy can do for her. That's when she falls hard in love, and he can then exploit her emotional soft spot for him.

Got any tips on how to incorporate this playfulness into the marriage-like situation? 

I found it's pretty easy to be playful and adventurous when you're Pick Up'ing around but it's very different when you're living together everyday and you're trying to pursue your Life Purpose in an efficient manner. While she wants to distract you with a bunch of museums and other type of stuff like this

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Kiko said:

What makes a guy a player? and in a nutshell what causes emotional stimulation in women?

That's a giant topic. Too long to write it out here.

1 hour ago, electroBeam said:

This goes against your advice that you should have a strong life purpose and be self determined to be attractive to women.

You're basically saying "life purpose" has nothing to do with getting a girl to fall in love with you. 

No, I'm just saying that you can hook a girl whilst being a deadbeat. This happens all the time because girls don't get attracted by your money or job, they get attracted to how much you emotionally stimulate them.

You can emotionally stimulate a girl without a job, or whilst having an amazing job. Of course having an amazing job makes you more of a long-term catch and gives you even higher value. But you can still appear high value without a job at all if you're very charismatic, for example.

1 hour ago, electroBeam said:

And how can you take girls on adventures if you haven't got enough money(from not having a job) to take her on them?

By using her money, of course!

But also, adventure is not so much about money, it's more of an attitude. You can be adventurous on the cheap. You can also have millions and not be adventurous.

1 hour ago, electroBeam said:

Surely that's relative to what you value. If the girl values children, she'd probably look for a guy whose stable. If she's a party type (like a lot of stage orange are, especially in Vegas) then yeah having fun is what you look for. 

All girls want to have fun and go on adventures, even if they also want stability and children.

It's hard to say No to fun.

1 hour ago, Hello from Russia said:

Got any tips on how to incorporate this playfulness into the marriage-like situation?

Obviously it's harder with marriage. That's a very different dynamic. That's end-game stuff.

[electroBeam]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

girls don't get attracted by your money or job, they get attracted to how much you emotionally stimulate them.

Yeah so in relation to girls, life purpose work isn't really applicable to attraction or short term relationships, its more valuable for keeping someone long term (maintaining her). 

But also life purpose relates to status building, which relates to attraction.

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

By using her money, of course!

But also, adventure is not so much about money, it's more of an attitude. You can be adventurous on the cheap. You can also have millions and not be adventurous.

Sounds a lot like having a child like mind, or "crazy wisdom", the story of sages and their attitudes and life is very adventurous in essence, which is also super applicable to creative careers. 

Although there's a correlation between having a good career and having an adventurous mindset. To have an amazing career and impact the world, you need to be very adventurous. For example making a high risk startup and travelling all over the world to get it working. Or forging a career like Martin Luther King, or Ghandi. Even nerdy INTP careers like Physics or Maths you need to be adventurous to have high impact. Going against and challenging the scientific establishment takes an openess and engagement with adventure, an attitude to risk things and allow things to not go your way for the sake of growing and trying to change the world you're in. 

[mandyjw]

It's not easy psychologically to let anyone else support you, it most definitely is not easy for more driven, independent or cautious personality types anyway. Even when that's the best route to go and in everyone's interest for whatever reason, switching careers, raising children, etc. 

We are a society that mostly bases our self worth on the things we do and the monetary worth the society places on those things. 

[DrewNows]

It comes down to fear, uncertainty, powerlessness, and lack of direction. Sometimes because there’s choice and a judgment, it can be assumed there’s a mistake in how a current situation looks and plays out 

we all have unique value systems, some are able to manifest wealth and abundance more naturally than others and some will never aspire to bringing a lot of materialistic wealth into their life. There’s nothing inherently wrong with any complementary energy exchange, where values and needs are satisfied 

“It’s no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society”  

Edited September 8, 2020 by DrewNows

[DrewNows]

How to work through addictions and unhealthy behaviors

It is as simple as doing what you fear the most and bringing awareness to what you fear as an idea or belief about oneself and or others 

I don’t actually believe Alan Watts was an alcoholic

Eating actually produces a lot of alcohol in the body

People will do what they fear and fear what they do until there is awareness of why, Then the strings are cut and they are free; Free to do an act as they please, even to create more strings

”Addiction is language, a-dict-tion”  

Edited September 8, 2020 by DrewNows

[Leo Gura]

16 hours ago, electroBeam said:

Yeah so in relation to girls, life purpose work isn't really applicable to attraction or short term relationships, its more valuable for keeping someone long term (maintaining her). 

Living a life on purpose will make you more confident and stronger as man, which will make you more attractive.

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But also life purpose relates to status building, which relates to attraction.

Being successful in your life purpose can make it much easier to meet new people through your reputation, status, expertise, celebrity, etc.

For example, if you are a semi-successful musician or actor or public speaker, it will be very easy to get laid simply because of how visible you are.

How often you get laid is directly proportional to how many new people are seeing you.

[Leo Gura]

@Keyhole Players are usually much smoother than other guys. So if a guy seems too smooth to be true, how do you think he got that smooth?

Non-player guys are gonna be more reserved, more shy, more awkward, slower, not as sexy or charming, not as charismatic, not as funny, more plain and boring.

[TrustTheProcess]

@Leo Gura Leo, can you please consider blessing us with a conscious pick up vid? I think it is long overdue. 

[MsNobody]

@Leo Gura only a player recognizes other players, I have the same question: does the player ever settles down? 

if I’m also playing we don’t get anywhere, should women not play?! You should help women too Leo with your relationship advices, you teach a lot to men here but not much to us ?

the charming guys tend to be more confident, we love confidence haha it’s a trap, do we look for the quiet, non experienced one? To teach? ?
 

 

[MsNobody]

@louhad we totally need that, otherwise Leo it’s gonna be part of all the other gurus that repress or simply don’t talk about sex/ relationships. 
 

I think it’s an extremely important topic, without sex we wouldn’t be here talking right now.. ?

Edited September 9, 2020 by MsNobody

[MsNobody]

@Keyhole yes because beta men are not good in bed, Leo please halp haha 

@Leo Gura

it’s difficult when the nice guys are super sweet but do I want to fuck a nice guy? No I don’t want to fuck a nice guy ? 

If the guy is not a player he won’t be experienced and won’t be good in bed, what do you recommend us to do? 

[MsNobody]

@datamonster no, not my style ?

[Akemrelax]

Women: Fuck alpha male toxic masculinity.

Also women:

34 minutes ago, MsNobody said:

@Keyhole yes because beta men are not good in bed, Leo please halp haha 

@Leo Gura

it’s difficult when the nice guys are super sweet but do I want to fuck a nice guy? No I don’t want to fuck a nice guy ? 

If the guy is not a player he won’t be experienced and won’t be good in bed, what do you recommend us to do? 

 

Men are the ones who need halp. We are tired of stupid demands!

 

[Leo Gura]

42 minutes ago, MsNobody said:

it’s difficult when the nice guys are super sweet but do I want to fuck a nice guy? No I don’t want to fuck a nice guy

Exactly. Tradeoffs.

It is every girl's dream to catch a player and lock him down.

Well, it's playing with fire. Maybe you can lock him down, maybe you can't. Depends on what you're offering.

Dating is a sort of market auction system where buyers and sellers have to meet each other's value propositions.

The better you make yourself the higher your bids can be. The key, as with other areas of life, is to bring massive value to the negotiating table. Then you can get what you want. But most people are too lazy to up their value. They want to leech value.

[MsNobody]

@Leo Gura so should I lower my standards? 

do conscious players exist? 

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, MsNobody said:

so should I lower my standards?

Raise your value.

[Akemrelax]

Women say men should be gentlemen, but secretly want assholes. 

You can see why the toxic men's internet communities are growing.

[MsNobody]

@Akemrelax gentleman but not in the bedroom ?