I am almost Enlightened, this can’t be that rare.

[Sam Johnson]

Hi! 
I am currently in a really weird state, a state of total certainty and at the same time absolute uncertainty . I meditated for about 4000 hours last year to stronger and stronger realize lately  (still perceiving dual) that duality never existed. When I listen to music, I listen to myself. I can already hear it. But it’s still dual although it’s not dual. So I Know that it was already nondual yesterday, a month ago, next month, next year, now. I know I’m on the edge of Infinity. How is it possible that I created a path where there is no path. I think I’m about to break out in laughter about all my efforts just to realize that it keeps spinning in circles. How is this stupid thing so hidden? I’m never was so certain and so uncertain at the same time. Im confused. Anyone having the same experience? 

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

9 minutes ago, Sam Johnson said:

I meditated for about 4000 hours last year

Eleven hours per day? Hmmm, not bad for a newbie... heh.

[Javfly33]

Are you tripping right now?

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

Just now, Javfly33 said:

Are you tripping right now?

Ah, if I got a cent for every time I've heard that question...

[Sam Johnson]

It seams a lot, but it was actually not that hard. The moment I realized that when the clock ticked 4 times and then it’s gone, and then the next 4, and the next for and so on,  there was nothing else I wanted to do but meditate. Like, it’s stupid. It’s actually stupid. 

Edited September 4, 2020 by Sam Johnson

[Inliytened1]

28 minutes ago, Sam Johnson said:

Hi! 
I am currently in a really weird state, a state of total certainty and at the same time absolute uncertainty . I meditated for about 4000 hours last year to stronger and stronger realize lately  (still perceiving dual) that duality never existed. When I listen to music, I listen to myself. I can already hear it. But it’s still dual although it’s not dual. So I Know that it was already nondual yesterday, a month ago, next month, next year, now. I know I’m on the edge of Infinity. How is it possible that I created a path where there is no path. I think I’m about to break out in laughter about all my efforts just to realize that it keeps spinning in circles. How is this stupid thing so hidden? I’m never was so certain and so uncertain at the same time. Im confused. Anyone having the same experience? 

There is no mistaking Infinity because you become it.   And it will be Absolute Certainty.  Infinite Intelligence.   So it sounds like this is intuition guiding you.   Maybe its time to try psychedelics.  Your ego is probably still in the way.  The ego thinking "why is this so hidden" is pushing you deeper into the illusion and farther away from Truth - that's actually a form of ego defense.  The ego needs to be overwhelmed completely or taken off guard.

[Sam Johnson]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

There is no mistaking Infinity because you become it.   And it will be Absolute Certainty.  Infinite Intelligence.   So it sounds like this is intuition guiding you.   Maybe its time to try psychedelics.  Your ego is probably still in the way.  The ego thinking "why is this so hidden" is pushing you deeper into the illusion and farther away from Truth - that's actually a form of ego defense.  The ego needs to be overwhelmed completely or taken off guard.

That’s not it, it is I don’t understand the 3 stages I went thought. The whole process is so weird. It is as if I become more and more certain that I can’t attain it because it is there, here, but yet I have to keep concentrating to get to stage 4.  The whole process has to be just a big joke. My effort are a joke. All my concentration I thought were necessary to then realize they weren’t? 

[Inliytened1]

8 minutes ago, Sam Johnson said:

That’s not it, it is I don’t understand the 3 stages I went thought. The whole process is so weird. It is as if I become more and more certain that I can’t attain it because it is there, here, but yet I have to keep concentrating to get to stage 4.  The whole process has to be just a big joke. My effort are a joke. All my concentration I thought were necessary to then realize they weren’t? 

Your efforts are not a joke.  But you do realize that to actually become conscious of Truth you as the ego must die right?

This isn't like a project you do for work in which there are phases to completion.  Oh no - spirituality is much more nuanced than that.  Your entire life is on the line.

So one can have all the concepts in the world but that must all collapse at the point of Being.  There is nothing for you to attain you see?  You just have to become directly aware that you are awareness and not a self.  Then the floodgates to other realizations will open.

 

 

[Javfly33]

26 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

Ah, if I got a cent for every time I've heard that question...

?? You're right, sorry guys for assuming everybody is a lazy ass like me who would only get OPs state just with Psychedelics

[Sam Johnson]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

Your efforts are not a joke.  But you do realize that to actually become conscious of Truth you as the ego must die right?

This isn't like a project you do for work in which there are phases to completion.  Oh no - spirituality is much more nuanced than that.  You entire life is on the line.

So one can have all the concepts in the world but that must all collapse at the point of Being.  There is nothing for you to attain you see?  You just have to become directly aware that you are awareness and not a self.  Then the floodgates to other realizations will open.

 

 

What you say is theoretically absolutely right, but practically I experienced 3 stages till now of like becoming less and less? If that makes sense. Like the only possibility that accuses to me is that ye, the 3 stage are nonsence because what I thought is dual has to be no dual. 

[Carl-Richard]

But are you dying yet?

[Sam Johnson]

4 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

?? You're right, sorry guys for assuming everybody is a lazy ass like me who would only get OPs state just with Psychedelics

Im not a superhuman extreme fasting isolated extreme disciplined motherfucker monk. And I didn’t had to be. My intention with this post and conversation ist not to prove anything. This is rather that if I experience this, and I’m human, you can too. I wish someone told me that this existed when I was like younger. I never believed it was a actually possibility, and so profound at the same time. 

[Breakingthewall]

@Sam Johnson have you ever tried any psichodelics? Maybe a small dose of mushroom could be a turbo for you

[Sam Johnson]

2 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

But are you dying yet?

Im not dying, I am. That’s all I know. 

[Johnny5]

@Sam Johnson Not that I'd know, but sounds to me like you're doing just fine.

@Javfly33 I think that much meditation is pretty rare. But some people just really take to it. Everyone is different.

[Javfly33]

2 minutes ago, Sam Johnson said:

Im not a superhuman extreme fasting isolated extreme disciplined motherfucker monk. And I didn’t had to be. My intention with this post and conversation ist not to prove anything. This is rather that if I experience this, and I’m human, you can too. I wish someone told me that this existed when I was like younger. I never believed it was a actually possibility, and so profound at the same time. 

Na I'm just kidding actually. I mean Psychedelics have been a potent catalyzer but actually most of my spiritual realizations and breakthroughs have been sober! So of course yes everybody can do it.

Psychedelics are still very important in most people's path thought. Even though my realizations were sober neccesarary recontextualizations of reality and basically making my mind open minded to actually start spiritual path seriously, were mostly thanks to Psychedelics 

[Sam Johnson]

Just now, Javfly33 said:

Na I'm just kidding actually. I mean Psychedelics have been a potent catalyzer but actually most of my spiritual realizations and breakthroughs have been sober! So of course yes everybody can do it.

Psychedelics are still very important in most people's path thought. Even though my realizations were sober neccesarary recontextualizations of reality and basically making my mind open minded to actually start spiritual path seriously, were mostly thanks to Psychedelics 

Sounds good javfly, keep it going! 

[Nahm]

What’ll ya see just how rare it is. 
 

[Sam Johnson]

5 minutes ago, Nahm said:

What’ll ya see just how rare it is. 
 

You think it is rare? 

[Osaid]

6 minutes ago, Sam Johnson said:

You think it is rare?

I mean not a lot of people who are willing to completely shatter their ego and belief systems

Makes sense it would be rare