Anderz

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The previous Krishnamurti video wasn't so much about confusion. I will take a look at this other video. The first video was more about conflict and conceptual relationships, which is related to confusion. This second video seems to be more directly about confusion.

 

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I came to think about something really tricky. Krishnamurti was questioning thought, and he also said "thinking together" and I have heard him mentioning it also in other speeches. Why questioning thought if thinking together is the same as a collective consciousness as I speculate about?

My answer is that even with a global collective consciousness, that's still a separate self! That's still confusion even if the global mind is billions of times more clever than any individual human mind. So it seems that Krishnamurti was pointing out the importance of recognizing the limitation of all thought.

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Entropy is today seen as disorder, decay, destruction and randomness. In my model entropy is order. What we believe to be disorder is in reality complexity in the sense of complicated order, not disorder.

A disease for example can be seen as increase of entropy. The suffering on the other hand as a consequence of the disease is low entropy! So suffering is a mistaken perception of entropy.

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The view that entropy is order has mind-blowing consequences. An example that Christians may think of as blasphemy, AND even atheists probably think of as blasphemy is that healthcare is sin. The explanation is simply that healthcare is a struggle against entropy viewed as disorder, which is a mistaken view and consequently it is to miss the mark which is the meaning of sin. Ta-da!

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If healthcare is sin, then can we just abandon it? No, healthcare is necessary at the personal stage. The whole society is basically still at the personal stage. But in theory, if my idea is correct, then yes at the transpersonal stage healing will be automatic. It's almost beyond a woo woo claim, yet it's a logical prediction.

The love of money is the root of all evil, it says in the Bible. And similar to healthcare, money is actually also sin. Money is very low entropy and can indeed be seen as the root of all evil when we cling to it since money so much dominates the world today. Money as a tool is fine. It's when we fall in love with the tool, fear the tool, are worried about the tool and other neurotic relationships and attachments that money becomes a danger.

Also notice that "sin" as in low entropy is a necessary stage of development. The "fall" of humanity was needed to create the experience of individualization, personal development and the creation of our civilization. So sin is good! Ultimately. The bad thing about sin is that it's a mistaken perspective, so relative to higher stages of development sin is bad.

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Maybe I shouldn't jump the gun here, but assuming Biden wins and becomes the next U.S. President, then what could that do to the bigger picture, even the global picture? I think that a global digital currency will be a huge global change. And Biden is probably more willing to introduce a digital U.S. dollar connected to say an IMF global digital currency than Donald Trump would.

So in that case, if a global digital currency is introduced within the next few years, then Biden is likely the best candidate, although Trump could in theory also go along with that, but Republicans in general will be more opposed to a global digital currency is my guess.

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Isn't there a risk with a global digital currency, with centralization of power, mass surveillance of people and governments controlling people's bank accounts? Almost like the mark of the beast in the Bible? Yes, there is that risk BUT I think of it as a necessary temporary stage where we go as a civilization from the personal stage to the transpersonal stage.

As technologies become more powerful very quickly there needs to be a global control system keeping people at lower stages of development in line. It will include keeping big corporations, even the big tech giants in line. I don't think that us the general public will for example be able to 3D print dangerous weapons. The same with dangerous use of artificial intelligence. There needs to be strict control of those kinds of powerful technologies, and in the future even of biotech and nanotech.

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It looks very unlikely, but what if my prediction that Trump will win is correct? What will happen with a global digital currency then? In that scenario China would play the role of an enormous threat with their DCEP, the digital yuan currency. That threat of DCEP world money domination would force the west to combat the situation, leading to the western powers, including the U.S., quickly introducing a global digital currency.

In that scenario the IMF is likely to be the issuer of the digital global currency even then. And each country tokenizes the global currency into their national currencies such as e-dollar, e-euro, e-pound and e-yen. I heard that the U.S. has veto power over IMF decisions so that would make even Trump trust a global digital currency as long as it can be used as e-dollars and that it can remove the Chinese DCEP threat. A U.S.-only digital dollar wouldn't be enough to overtake China's large first-mover advantage, so it will have to be a global currency which is big enough to dethrone the DCEP.

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Shunyamurti said in this video that judgment is always a duality. Sounds similar to the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. It's also similar to Leo's video about goodness. 

 

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I have started exploring the idea that fear is collective. The idea is that the fear we feel is a shared field of the collective subconscious. And the personal stage is very much driven by fear. Roger Castillo has this new satsang video where he talks about changing the way we think of should and shouldn'ts. That's useful I think for moving from the personal stage and into the transpersonal stage.

 

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Leo has a new blog post about capitalism. I want to post my initial thoughts about it before I take a look at the blog post. My view is that at the personal stage capitalism alone will lead to narrow money interests dominating too much without including the welfare of society as a whole. And socialism alone will lead to a mean Green trap I suspect, where experts decide over the people which may seem valid at first, yet those experts become like high priests of authority in society behind an opaque and whitewashed wall where the experts behind the wall have the knowledge and the power and the rest of society, including politicians, become hostages to that corrupt power structure.

And also as Ray Kurzweil has explained, products and services are getting cheaper and more powerful at an accelerating rate, so the economy in the world will look very different already some decade(s) from now compared to today. And both free market experts and experts on socialism have proposed universal basic income (UBI) as a solution to the increasing automation. I believe a UBI is a useful approach but only as a temporary solution and then further into the future the role of money will diminish. And I believe that we need a global surveillance and control system to prevent misuse of the extremely powerful technologies such as AI, nanotech and biotech. And even that is a temporary solution necessary while humanity as a whole moves into the transpersonal stage.

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Wow, Leo mentioned something I totally missed about capitalism as it functions today. How many people like Elon Musk are there? And how many regular workers are there, earning like a million times less money than Musk? So as it is today, capitalism is like a pyramid scheme where far less people can earn a lot of money than those who become rich. Of course I already knew about the extremely lopsided wealth distribution but I hadn't thought about how utterly improbable it is for someone to become "successful" in today's capitalism system. (B.t.w. Tesla and Amazon are a joke compared to China's products and services in a near future I suspect.)

I also forgot to mention what is good about capitalism which is the powerful development through fierce competition. So capitalism has been very useful and necessary in that sense. However in the future, and we already see this trend today, through information technology money is losing more and more of its power, and even the power of competition can now more and more be achieved without money incentives.

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Another thing Leo addresses in the blog video is the claim that humans by nature are selfish and greedy. I was thinking the same thing when watching the Joe Rogan interview. Leo has tons of videos about precisely how it's possible to reach higher levels of personal development where the simplistic selfishness is being reduced.

So, yes, I agree with Leo, that claim is based on a low personal stage of development. And do we as humanity want to remain at that Dark Ages level? I don't. The person being interviewed seemed to believe that a low stage of development is something permanent. That would be horrible and I doubt it's true. Heck, even within the personal stage there are many levels of selfishness and greed as Leo pointed out.

And at the transpersonal stage the selfishness and greed are completely gone as I see it. There will be transcend and include of even greed, but not in the simplistic fear of survival kind of greed that we have at the personal stage. More like greed on top of a foundation of non-greed. It's impossible to add a layer of non-greed on top of fear-based greed. It is however possible to add constructive greed such as in competition as a layer above non-greed where that foundation guarantees survival.

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Sidney Powell has made almost even more outrageous voter fraud claims than Donald Trump. And she has been removed from Trump's legal team. She recently filed two lawsuits, and I saw on Reddit and in mainstream news that those lawsuits got ridiculed because they had typos and things in them. Is there any validity to Powell's claims? I don't know but here is a video which I will take a look at where what seems to be a real lawyer explains the situation (unbiased or not):

 

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How to deal with big conflicts like the voter fraud claims from a transpersonal perspective? I can use my idea of entropy being order to examine conflicts. Then it's seen that conflicts are low entropy, which actually is order! So why all the confusion and different claims? Because conflicts, like everything else at the personal stage, have lower entropy than is needed at the transpersonal stage.

The resolution of conflicts then is achieved through lessening the tensions caused by too much clinging. And complaining about conflicts only increases the tension. So the solution is to relax the tensions in oneself. That might seem like a selfish strategy but resolving conflicts within oneself includes all one's conflicts with the outer world, so it's a strategy that includes the whole and causes healing even on the external level.

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Edit: I changed my mind, detaching from society will be too difficult. I will try an integral approach of lessening my dependency on society.

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Great topic for Leo's new video. Of course "God" I assume means the nondual God rather than a separate creator. My definition is that God is the infinite intelligence of reality. That may sound like God as a separate creator but I mean the intelligence of reality itself, so that even matches an atheistic perspective if one wants that. Ken Wilber talked about God from first, second and third person perspectives, and that's also something that I can plug my definition into. For example God as a second person perspective is the traditional religion monotheistic God, the Great Other, and that's valid since God even with my definition includes all the future, so that's something outside of our awareness hence something greater than ourselves. God from first person perspective is what I think Leo is describing in this video. That's oneSelf as God which is valid from a nondual perspective. The third person perspective of God is as the manifested reality, and that too includes oneself.

 

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Aha! Detaching from society can probably done within oneself by dissolving tensions. It's not financial situations, careers, social status, reputation, goodwill, education, culture, nationality, personal relationships or material or immaterial possessions that in themselves are the problem. The problem is the attachment to things  like that.

And the attachment to society manifests as tension in the body and mind. So, then, if that theory is correct, it's "just" a matter of dissolving one's own tensions to detach from the collective morphic field of society.

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I came to think of a speculative idea. If the ego tension are collective, then when those tensions dissolve it results in a collective consciousness. Carl Junk talked about a collective unconscious. My idea is that it will result in a collective conscious when our tensions dissolve.

And that would explain why the tensions are so immensely deep. Most of the tensions are hidden on a subconscious level and with inner body awareness practice the tensions gradually come up to the surface of conscious awareness. And in my experience that's a massive and burdensome process.

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I found this other video with legal and political experts. They seem to be fairly unbiased and simply explain the laws and procedures etc. I still think Trump may have a chance so I want to inform myself about what the actual rules are.

 

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