Posted November 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Scholar said: The just brought Trump on in the public hearing. This is getting so desperate. Trump claims that on election night every big political leader called to congratulate his victory ? 3 minutes ago, Anderz said: The main claim I heard is that mail-in ballots were sent to people who hadn't requested them, and they even talked about checking the ink on the ballots for mass production fraud. Sounds like a Hollywood drama. I remain on the fence. Those claims have been thrown out of court by conservative judges. There was likely scattered instances of fraud as with any U.S. election, yet there hasn’t been evidence of mass fraud. The alternative theory would be that the U.S. court system is conspiring in the election fraud to elect Biden. Yet that seems like a big stretch to me. Why would conservative judges appointed by republicans join in a conspiracy with Democrats that have a different ideology? It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to hold that view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) Trump is going to be dragged out of the white house one way or another. No point in him crying wolf. All drama. He doesn't want to go away quietly. The bruised ego is doing everything to sound like it didn't lose. He lost fair and square He never had any dignity to begin with so it doesn't occur to him that he might be losing some. Maybe by doing all this he is trying to create mass fear and panic because when someone puts up such resistance then people just obey that person or let that person do what they want, maybe his strategy is to create so much fear that nobody would talk about the election or question his stay in the White House so by default he gets to stay as a President. In every day life I've seen examples of people who have been so stubborn that people have given up and let them do what they want out of fear. It's just stage Red dominance strategy where enough fear can shut down a person from questioning anything. Edited November 25, 2020 by Preety_India INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 25, 2020 @Preety_India You sound passionate. Why are you so convinced? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) @honesty why are you convinced otherwise? @Forestluv can you explain me what's going on in this video. Are they faking a hearing, like staging a hearing of the Republicans, by the Republicans and For the Republicans, is this legal? Is this an enactment of a hearing by Rudy Giuliani just for the purpose of streaming it to the public? I don't understand what's going on here? It's not being held in a federal building? It looks ridiculous. And it's being held at Gettysburg, what an insult. Edited November 25, 2020 by Preety_India INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 25, 2020 They should have done it in an alley Lol It's a joke, really... Don’t you realize that all of you together are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God lives in you? 1 Corinthians 3:16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 25, 2020 @Preety_India It was political theater to promote the narrative of mass fraud. It was designed to look like an official hearing, yet there was nothing official about it. There were some Republican PA legislatures that came to say how concerned they were about the fraud and that they would take action to fight fraud. To me, they were trying to tell the MAGA base “we are fighting for you”. They have a fine line to walk between maintaining reasonable republicans and batshit crazy republicans. On the left, it would be like trying to hold onto both Lincoln Project centrists and revolutionary socialists like Ryan Knight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, abrakamowse said: They should have done it in an alley Lol It's a joke, really... An alley... Lmao They should have done it in an animal zoo with all the animals as witnesses and chiming in their animal sounds. Or how about inside a church where pastors can approve them with a copy of the Bible? INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 25, 2020 Just now, Preety_India said: Or how about inside a church where pastors can approve them with a copy of the Bible? hahaha... something like this @Forestluv thanks a lot for the info. This is getting really crazy. I was reading this article, even fox news realized that is BS. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/11/will-rupert-murdoch-spring-for-a-post-presidential-fox-gig Don’t you realize that all of you together are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God lives in you? 1 Corinthians 3:16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 25, 2020 Just now, abrakamowse said: hahaha... something like this @Forestluv thanks a lot for the info. This is getting really crazy. I was reading this article, even fox news realized that is BS. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/11/will-rupert-murdoch-spring-for-a-post-presidential-fox-gig And Trump needs to borrow some of the hair dye from Giuliani, his hair has been looking colorless and ashen in the past few days. He forgot to dye his hair it seems. Will add more color to these ridiculous gatherings! INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 25, 2020 @Preety_India Don’t you realize that all of you together are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God lives in you? 1 Corinthians 3:16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 26, 2020 @Forestluv I haven't looked into it in detail but what made me think of it as a Hollywood drama was the mentioning of forensic investigation of the ink of the signatures on the mail-in ballots. As an example, let's say that in a county they sent out 100,000 mail-in ballots to people who had requested them, and then they added 50,000 ballots of people who hadn't requested any, and all of those were signed with mass produced fake signatures and added directly to the vote count without being sent by mail to people. That was the kind of scenario I came to think of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 26, 2020 (edited) “There is no such thing as an “unsolicited” ballot. Five states routinely send ballots to all registered voters so they can choose to vote through the mail or in person. Four other states and the District of Columbia will be adopting that system in November, as will almost every county in Montana. Election officials note that, by registering to vote, people are effectively requesting a ballot, so it makes no sense to call the materials sent to them “unsolicited.” “ (...) "The main states that are being contested — Arizona, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — only send mail ballots to voters who request them. Trump said Thursday that such “solicited” ballots are absolutely “OK.” Trump frequently blasts mail-in voting as flawed and fraudulent while insisting that mail ballots in certain states such as Florida, a must-win state for him are fine and safe. But mail-in ballots are cast in the same way as what Trump refers to as “absentee” mail ballots, with the same level of scrutiny such as signature verification in many states. In court filings, the Trump campaign has acknowledged that mail-in and absentee ballots are legally interchangeable terms." More info here: https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-election-2020-ap-fact-check-elections-voting-fraud-and-irregularities-8c5db90960815f91f39fe115579570b4 Edited November 26, 2020 by abrakamowse Added some more info Don’t you realize that all of you together are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God lives in you? 1 Corinthians 3:16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Anderz said: @Forestluv I haven't looked into it in detail but what made me think of it as a Hollywood drama was the mentioning of forensic investigation of the ink of the signatures on the mail-in ballots. As an example, let's say that in a county they sent out 100,000 mail-in ballots to people who had requested them, and then they added 50,000 ballots of people who hadn't requested any, and all of those were signed with mass produced fake signatures and added directly to the vote count without being sent by mail to people. That was the kind of scenario I came to think of. Where are you getting this stuff from? What sources? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 26, 2020 Just now, Sempiternity said: Where are you getting this stuff from? What sources? Giuliani Lol Don’t you realize that all of you together are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God lives in you? 1 Corinthians 3:16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 26, 2020 Breaking News from Tim Pool! Judge BLOCKS PA Certification, HUGE Win For Trump, w/ Jack Murphy! This is laughable, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 26, 2020 (edited) @Hardkill what in the world? How is this possible? Edited November 26, 2020 by Preety_India INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 26, 2020 (edited) Don't panic @Preety_India "“Since the birth of our nation nearly 250 years ago, no court has ever issued an order purporting to interfere with a state’s ascertainment of its presidential electors -- until today,” state officials said in an appeal filed shortly after Commonwealth Court Judge Patricia McCullough’s Wednesday ruling in a lawsuit brought by Pennsylvania Republicans. “There is no conceivable justification for the lower court’s issuance of such an order in this case. Boockvar certified Biden’s 80,555-vote Pennsylvania victory on Tuesday, with Wolf appointing electors for the state shortly thereafter. But McCullough halted the process “to the extent that there remains any further action to perfect the certification of the results of the 2020 General Election” until a hearing she set for 11:30 a.m. on Friday. The state officials said the order should not be allowed to stand, “even for a short time.” " https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-25/pennsylvania-judge-blocks-further-election-certification-steps Edited November 26, 2020 by abrakamowse Don’t you realize that all of you together are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God lives in you? 1 Corinthians 3:16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 26, 2020 "This order does not impact yesterday’s appointment of electors," Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro said on Twitter Wednesday. "We will be filing an appeal with the Pennsylvania Supreme Court momentarily." Pennsylvania certified the results from the election Tuesday, Gov. Tom Wolf confirmed. Wolf said he signed the Certificate of Ascertainment for the slate of electors for Joe Biden. A hearing will take place at 11:30 a.m. Friday. Specifically, the new language in the Trump campaign filing targets the legality of Act 77, the legislation passed in bipartisan fashion in the Pennsylvania state legislature in Oct. 2019. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-blocks-further-certification-of-pa-election-results/ar-BB1bmgHa Don’t you realize that all of you together are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God lives in you? 1 Corinthians 3:16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 26, 2020 (edited) @abrakamowse @Sempiternity Examining the ink on the ballots was mentioned by one of the witnesses. Normally I wouldn't have paid much attention to it, but during the same hearing Giuliani said (from about 33 minutes into the video): "I'll give you one other enormously puzzling statistic. You sent out in the state of commonwealth of Pennsylvania ... you received back 1.4 million approximately, however in the count for President, you counted 2.5 million. I don't know what accounts for that 700,000 difference between the number of ballots you sent out and the number of ballots that ended up in the count." That's a huge difference! Maybe a false claim, but I think a court needs to examine it. And even the fantastical idea of doing a forensic investigation of the ink is justified if it turns out that there really was a huge difference between ballots received and ballots counted. Edited November 26, 2020 by Anderz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 26, 2020 @abrakamowse thanks. That's good news. INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
