Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Preety_India said: @Parththakkar12 so your solution is to vote a man who is a dictator and someone who doesn't want all votes to be counted and like a power hungry child declares victory before a game is over?? Democracy is bigger than any truth or conspiracy theory in the world. Finally it should be the victory of democracy and not some conspiracy bullshit. That's their solution, not mine. I'd abandon this system altogether and create my own to compete with this one. "Do not pray for an easy life. Pray for the strength to endure a difficult one." - Bruce Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) @hyruga I'm at Spiral Dynamics stage Yellow. So I'm above left-right politics! Well, at least I believe so. Someone said that people are actually at two stages lower than they themselves believe they are. So that would make me at stage Orange, but I doubt that. For example I want a strong social safety net and that's hardly Orange. I have predicted that Trump is at stage Turquoise! And that he needs to play the role of Red and Orange in order to get the broad masses to understand and accept him. We will see. It's just my guess. I know that it's an outrageous claim. Marianne Williamson is also at stage Turquoise I think and she has to play the role of Green to get people at that stage to understand and accept her. That's what I meant earlier by Trump and Williamson being similar from a big picture perspective. Even Biden may be at Turquoise but I think someone like Trump is needed to deal with the vicious corrupt forces. One has to be like a ruthless mafia boss to deal with people like that, haha. Edited November 4, 2020 by Anderz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 4, 2020 51 minutes ago, Parththakkar12 said: This is what I find so funny. First, you censor Trumpism. Then, people vote for Trump. Then, you scratch your heads thinking 'I wonder why people vote for Trump?' The answer to that question is in the very Trumpism you censored out! But you were too busy fighting it that you missed important details about people's everyday lives and now that's coming back to bite you in the ass. I'm not saying that Q-Anon is right. But if you really want to know why people vote for him, go down the Q-Anon rabbit-hole with an open mind. You haven't understood Q-Anon well enough, which is why you're censoring it. This plays right into the hands of Q-Anonners and it proves their point. I know it's scary to consider that they're right. But if you want to know why people vote for Trump, that's where the answer is. Trumpism is "censored" because it's fucking ridiculous and dangerous. I've explored Qanon with an open mind and let me tell you, it's all complete bullshit. What the fuck are you talking about? People vote for Trump because they are stupid & unconscious. If someone votes Trump because "trumpism in being censored" or because they believe in Qanon, they are fucking stupid. This is not rocket science. Everyone is waiting for eternity but the Shaman asks: "how about today?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) Biden leading in Wisconsin right now. 1.9 m votes haven't been counted Jonathan Karl is a good reporter btw Edited November 4, 2020 by Preety_India INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 4, 2020 Regardless of who wins, we have to protect the American constitution. We have to stand tall for liberty. Embracing freedom is a good thing. I'm happy even if Trump loses, as his supporters will continue to elect republicans in the congress to protect our liberties. USA is a nation under God. It has to stay that way. Me on the road less traveled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) If Trump wins & further damage spouts, it could, at least, thrust the pendulum in 2024 and propel it with greater force in favor of the Dems. Fucking shame Bernie's gonna be too old in four years. Edited November 4, 2020 by SirVladimir Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 4, 2020 Seriously look at this ? God is love Whoever lives in love lives in God And God in them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Don said: as his supporters will continue to elect republicans in the congress to protect our liberties. Sorry, but this is the most ironic statement. It's Republicans who keep flouting Constitutional rules. An example is the appointment of the SCOTUS Republicans constantly flip on their words and constantly lie and don't give a damn about Equality, fairness or civil liberties. They do what they want how they want. INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 4, 2020 If the Reps go off the leash or take things too far, the same fate awaits the USA as Poland recently. Godspeed to MI, NC, and others. Hopefully they flip it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) Why is Pennsylvania still at the same level of progress as Nevada in vote counting? Shouldn't they have had 3 extra hours to count? Oh. Dumb. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pennsylvania-finish-counting-absentee-ballots-friday-earliest/story?id=73993649 Edited November 4, 2020 by mandyjw My Youtube Channel- Light on Earth “We dance round in a ring and suppose, but the Secret sits in the middle and knows.”― Robert Frost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, Preety_India said: Sorry, but this is the most ironic statement. It might appear ironic, but I'm dead serious. 10 minutes ago, Preety_India said: Republicans constantly flip on their words and constantly lie and don't give a damn about Equality, fairness or civil liberties. Equality of opportunity, fairness and liberty; all those values are the byproduct of freedom. And that's all I care about. No matter who wins today, America is no longer on the path of socialism and that's a great thing. We have a conservative Supreme Court for decades to come. Me on the road less traveled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, The Don said: It might appear ironic, but I'm dead serious. Equality of opportunity, fairness and liberty; all those values are the byproduct of freedom. "And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything." This represents equality of opportunity to you? Ok. My Youtube Channel- Light on Earth “We dance round in a ring and suppose, but the Secret sits in the middle and knows.”― Robert Frost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 4, 2020 @mandyjw If he still thinks that it's pointless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) Far-right Trump supporters right now: "For the grace, for the might of our Lord..." "In the service of Heaven..." "They're protecting the holy line..." "The're the guards of Christianity..." Gotta agree this video is a wet dream for them. Edited November 4, 2020 by SirVladimir Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) @Opo I know, but one of our values on this forum is seeing things from other perspectives. The strange thing about liberty and freedom is that it's perspectiveLESS. Voting for an authority figure to express your love of freedom is the most IRONIC thing ever. This isn't even a democracy in the least. Democracy is a concept that isn't actually what's happening, and it's a concept no one has really stopped to question or consider except to say they love it. All they consider is fear of socialism instead, which likewise, no one has stopped to consider what socialism is in actuality. Fear of loss of freedom and love of freedom are so easily confused. And often the confusion that results from fear takes the form of someone attempting to take someone else's freedom because they believe that freedom can be taken. Hence, "You can do anything." Which is ironic again, because when I remove those words from context, they become something else, free. Edited November 4, 2020 by mandyjw My Youtube Channel- Light on Earth “We dance round in a ring and suppose, but the Secret sits in the middle and knows.”― Robert Frost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 4, 2020 This site has how well each candidate is doing https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 4, 2020 Bernie Sanders called for the possibility and he nailed it, at least the first part for now. Quote It could well be that at 10 o’clock on election night, Trump is winning in Michigan, he’s winning in Pennsylvania, he’s winning in Wisconsin, and he gets on the television and he says, ‘Thank you, Americans, for reelecting me. It’s all over. Have a good day.’ But then, the next day, and the day following, all of those mail-in ballots start getting counted, and it turns out that Biden has won those states, at which point Trump says, ‘See? I told you the whole thing was fraudulent. I told you those mail-in ballots were crooked. And we’re not going to leave office.’ So that is a worry that I and a lot of people have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 4, 2020 If you put your hands on this oar with me, they will never harm another, and they will come to find they hold everything you want. If you put your hands on this oar with me, they would no longer lift anything to your mouth that might wound your precious land – that sacred earth that is your body. If you put your soul against this oar with me, the power that made the universe will enter your sinew from a source not outside your limbs, but from a holy realm that lives in us. Exuberant is existence, time a husk. When the moment cracks open, ecstasy leaps out and devours space; love goes mad with the blessings, like my words give. Why lay yourself on the torturer’s rack of the past and the future? The mind that tries to shape tomorrow beyond its capacities will find no rest. Be kind to yourself, dear – to our innocent follies. Forget any sounds or touch you knew that did not help you dance. You will come to see that all evolves us. ~ Rumi ~ My Youtube Channel- Light on Earth “We dance round in a ring and suppose, but the Secret sits in the middle and knows.”― Robert Frost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 4, 2020 Why is this so close? I was hoping for historic Biden landslide. Well, this is a lot more entertaining so.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 4, 2020 If Trump truly comes to power, the world will look at America and Americans very differently. America had the standing in the world as the most freedom loving open and accepting and equality promoting country in the world. People used to look at America as the land of the free where you can have the liberties that no country or culture can offer. Where you turn into a real logical free sincere individual who understands human rights and liberties and respects all humans no matter what their social standing might be. Other cultures that are not western are known to be oppressive, tyrannical, freedom suppressing, unfair, uncaring etc. But America was a beacon of hope. It's sad that such a leader has been elected who does not believe in these values but likes and praises authoritarians and dictators. Who likes chauvinism and demagoguery and takes pride in insulting people and disrespecting human values, disrespecting women, who is the archetype of narcissism and immaturity, who doesn't believe in peace but loves offending and inciting crowds to violence and warring, who doesn't believe in basic logic if it doesn't suit his agenda, who loves lying freely and excessively and doesn't keep a word, no class, no integrity, simply fake bravado and bragging, hiding deep insecurities about failure. He will permanently damage the image of America in the world. INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
