Right Wing News Media Stoops to New Low: Defends 17yo Shooter

[Epikur]

4 minutes ago, Consept said:

Imagine this was the other way round and a black 17 year old shot a couple people at trump rally, would anyone be justifying that? This is actually bordering on insanity now 

Depends on the situation if the Trump people are rioting, looting and killing. I guess you could make a case.

[purerogue]

9 minutes ago, Consept said:

So just as a matter of logic you think it's acceptable or even lawful to have an armed untrained 17 year old policing the streets? 

He seems to be very well trained judging by video, he handled situation better then most people would if they could pull trigger. 

Would it change anything if he would be 18-21 besides point of law? 

[Apparition of Jack]

@purerogue He went out of his way to murder two people

If a man comes into your town with a gun and sees you jaywalking, does he have the right to kill you? According to you, he does, since apparently anyone can take the law into their own hands whenever they feel like it.

Edited August 27, 2020 by Apparition of Jack

[Rajneeshpuram]

1 hour ago, Opo said:

@Rajneeshpuram Don't call me nazi while I call you anarchist rioters and antifa members. 

Read this article if you can translate in your language. This riots are put-up in purpose to create hate, confrontation.

 

https://somatemps.me/2019/11/04/fundador-de-grupo-antisistema-antifa-confiesa-soros-queria-que-antifa-fuera-mas-peligroso-que-isis/

 

 

[purerogue]

1 minute ago, Apparition of Jack said:

@purerogue He went out of his way to murder two people

If someone comes into your town with a gun and sees you jaywalking, do they have the right to kill you?

Well he had 2 options, let the crowd beat him up, maybe kill him, or shoot at them, did he made right decision ?

Guy was not attacking anyone, sure he was walking around with gun, but he was not stirring up problems.

You are trying to find  justification for why it is k for them to attack him and it is wrong for him to defend himself, it is just silly. 

So what is it, is it wrong for people to protect property, but it is k for people to go around assaulting others , destroying property, just logical question?

[Apparition of Jack]

2 minutes ago, purerogue said:

So what is it, is it wrong for people to protect property, but it is k for people to go around assaulting others , destroying property, just logical question?

1. It wasn't his property.

2. In a choice between lives and property, yes, lives are more important.

[Roy]

44 minutes ago, StephenK said:

Stupid protesters try to physically assault stupid kid armed with a lethal semi-automatic rifle.

Get shot.

Stupid attracts stupid.

Stupid awards all around.

This basically sums it all up. Nothing to really learn from this incident.

[Opo]

23 minutes ago, purerogue said:

Would it change anything if he would be 18-21 besides point of law? 

Oh god i was a demon at 17. People mature so fast at that age that even 1 year makes a big difference. 

[purerogue]

9 minutes ago, Apparition of Jack said:

1. It wasn't his property.

2. In a choice between lives and property, yes, lives are more important.

Good that you don't run society, would not survive.

Does not matter if it was his property, not everyone is brave enough to protect them self, or are capable to.

I don't want to go into article long discussions about life importance, you seem to read to much spiritual dogma. 

Edited August 27, 2020 by purerogue

[Apparition of Jack]

2 minutes ago, purerogue said:

Good that you don't run society, would not survive.

Does not matter if it was his property, not everyone is brave enough to protect them self, or are capable to.

I don't want to go into article long discussions about life importance, you seem to read to much spiritual dogmas. 

Too much stage Red. Yikes.

[Epikur]

14 minutes ago, louhad said:

you're conflating protestors with rioters and killers when those are less than 5% of people.... 

When he concentrates on the 5% you can make the case imho.

[Epikur]

27 minutes ago, Rajneeshpuram said:

Read this article if you can translate in your language. This riots are put-up in purpose to create hate, confrontation.

 

https://somatemps.me/2019/11/04/fundador-de-grupo-antisistema-antifa-confiesa-soros-queria-que-antifa-fuera-mas-peligroso-que-isis/

 

 

Not enough prove

[AtheisticNonduality]

If you're a Nazi terrorist and a scumbag that murderously shoots someone in the head, you should expect to have a mob of people chasing you. You do not have the right to fight back. You have the right to get beaten into the ground and sent back where you came from.

[GenuinePerspectiveXC]

2 hours ago, AtheisticNonduality said:

Some fascists in the comments here.

YOU are a fascist because you are against open dialogue.  The three people that got shot assaulted the kid with weapons because they were angry about a fire getting extinguished at a gas station.

People like YOU created this violence by labeling people as fascists just so YOU can escalate YOUR virtue signaling to whatever level YOU want.

Edited August 27, 2020 by GenuinePerspectiveXC

[Epikur]

Question: where was the police? Or aren't they allowed to do their job against violent rioters?

[Rajneeshpuram]

16 minutes ago, AtheisticNonduality said:

If you're a Nazi terrorist and a scumbag that murderously shoots someone in the head, you should expect to have a mob of people chasing you. You do not have the right to fight back. You have the right to get beaten into the ground and sent back where you came from.

By your words your heart is full of hatred and prejudices. What the hell are you doing in a self-development/spiritual forum? 

[Extreme Z7]

10 minutes ago, GenuinePerspectiveXC said:

YOU are a fascist because you are against open dialogue.  The three people that got shot assaulted the kid with weapons because they were angry about a fire getting extinguished at a gas station.

People like YOU created this violence by labeling people as fascists just so YOU can escalate YOUR virtue signaling to whatever level YOU want.

This kind of response is unproductive and not a good-faith response. So is mine:

But jokes aside, you're asking for trouble if you attack random people with a gun regardless of whether they're protesters or not.

[Extreme Z7]

4 minutes ago, Rajneeshpuram said:

By your words your heart is full of hatred and prejudices. What the hell are you doing in a self-development/spiritual forum? 

Ironically, you have fallen into a classic trap here: Mythologizing "spiritual people" as never condoning violence or harsh action.

You can do your spiritual practices and stuff and still kill a man in certain contexts of self-defense.

[GenuinePerspectiveXC]

4 minutes ago, Extreme Z7 said:

This kind of response is unproductive and not a good-faith response. So is mine:

But jokes aside, you're asking for trouble if you attack random people with a gun regardless of whether they're protesters or not.

@purerogue  He didn't attack random people with a gun. 

1) He was literally being chased by the first attacker

2) He was hit with kicked, hit with skateboard, and had gun pulled on him later

3) He only shot the people that attacked him

FULL FOOTAGE  

https://old.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/igxbxt/higher_quality_version_of_the_entire_sequence_of/

[Extreme Z7]

10 minutes ago, GenuinePerspectiveXC said:

3) He only shot the people that attacked him

By that logic, if you walk into a bank holding a gun and the cops pull their firearms on you. That makes you justified to shoot at them because hey. . .it was self-defense!

That's so far-away from a solid defense of what happened.

Edited August 27, 2020 by Extreme Z7