Spiral Dynamics and Pick up

[liamnewsom202]

Do you feel like there is a correlation between spiral dynamics stage and what attracts a female? For example a stage green girl whos interested in social justice punk music and planet earth would be less attracted to your material success and your cars and such than a stage orange female who could be more interested in shopping, dates, etc.. Is this a potential limitation of pick up in the sense that pick up assumes all girls care about these specific things to the same degree. Not to say green girls dont have these values but there values are more emotional in the sense that they want to see your not going to be emotionally harmful to them and are often focused on there own inner health and are likely aware of there traumas. Is the essence of conscious pick up being able to integrate these stage green and maybe second tier values into traditional typical orange pick up which is valuable stuff like making sure your materially sustainable, being confident and not needy, high orange value. Maybe all these stages positive values are integrated but the higher the girl your trying to attract is up the spiral the more compatible for attraction you become. 

[Leo Gura]

@liamnewsom202 You misunderstand what makes pickup and attraction work.

It's not about cars or money or appealing to hippie chicks with hippy crack. It's about learning to become a strong, authentic man with powerful social skills who exudes charm, humor, charisma, and presence. It's about becoming grounded and confident.

These qualities are attractive regardless of culture or Spiral stage. You can attract a crack whore this way or a yogi saint.

Attraction is distinction from relationship compatibility. You could attract a crack whore but not be compatible with her value set. Likewise a yogi saint.

You need to screen girls for compatibility. Doing so will make you even more attractive.

[docs20]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@liamnewsom202 You misunderstand what makes pickup and attraction work.

It's not about cars or money or appealing to hippie chicks with hippy crack. It's about about learning to become a strong, authentic man with powerful social skills and who exudes charm, humor, charisma, and presence. It's about becoming grounded and confident.

These qualities are attractive regardless of culture or Spiral stage. You can attract a crack whore this way or a yogi saint.

Attraction is distinction from relationship compatibility. You could attract a crack whore but not be compatible with her value set. Likewise a yogi saint.

You need to screen girls for compatibility. Doing so will make you even more attractive.

Agree, but often to get the attraction truly unleashed there needs to be also a show of compatibility of values, which determines a sense of belonging and makes your mind unleash the attraction for the other person, so in a sense Spiral Dynamics compatibily plays a part in the attraction and falling in love process

Edited August 27, 2020 by docs20

[liamnewsom202]

@Leo Gura thanks Leo, this is a helpful differentiation

[Roy]

You can probably screen for values compatibility using SD, but that just depends on how neurotic you are about having someone around the same level as you.

Don't let SD taint your possibilities and become a limiting belief about who you can be with. Love transcends all stages. A perfectly healthy and functional relationship can happen between a Stage Blue and Stage Yellow person. Opposites attract as they say.

Keep in mind Spiral Dynamics is a model meant primarily to map groups, not individuals. People are incredibly unique and you will find contradictions within them despite an overall affinity to a particular stage.

Edited August 27, 2020 by Roy

[hamedsf]

I don't know why the actualized members are so hell bent on stages that much. what you don't understand is that a weak man is not acceptable for any type of that woman of that fuckin' stage you consider that is topper than other. try to be as week as possible and that vegan green stage woman will create the hell for you on earth. enjoy burning in her green flames ?