Are siddhis real?

[Red-White-Light]

@Tim R No, you’ve made a key mistake. Reality and the laws of physics are being willed by God. You can’t have this reality without it’s laws. The Self that wills this reality can will a different reality, but it’s absolutely consistent. That’s why you wake up to the same world everyday.

22 minutes ago, Tim R said:

No it wouldn't. Reality doesn't depend on the laws of physics, the laws of physics depend on reality.

Reality > laws of physics

 

Edited September 7, 2020 by Red-White-Light

[Fadl]

41 minutes ago, Red-White-Light said:

No, you’ve made a key mistake. Reality and the laws of physics are being willed by God. You can’t have this reality without it’s laws. The Self that wills this reality can will a different reality, but it’s absolutely consistent. That’s why you wake up to the same world everyday.

I think the laws of physics can change, but the lwas or reality can´t change, I mean the basic mental/logical laws like for example A=A but A!=B, and also the law of the part is smaller than the whole. that kind of laws are impossible to change cause if they did there will be no way to reach God or understand anything at all in the first place, there will be no life. 

 

Anyway, for those who are interested in psychic powers read that book by OSHO called Hidden Mysteries, it is like a small introduction to psychic powers (I can´t confirm all the stories inside the book of course), and for those who have some other resources please share.

http://www.oshoworld.com/e-books/eng_translations.asp?pdf_id=237_The_Heartbeat_of_the_Absolute.pdf&download=Yes

[Tim R]

51 minutes ago, Red-White-Light said:

@Tim R No, you’ve made a key mistake. Reality and the laws of physics are being willed by God. You can’t have this reality without it’s laws. The Self that wills this reality can will a different reality, but it’s absolutely consistent. That’s why you wake up to the same world everyday.

 

You don't wake up to the same world everyday. Time is a construction of the mind. How much time passes between going to sleep and waking up?

No time at all. There is no difference between going to sleep and waking up, it's one and the same event. Everything happens at once, now. Not in the sense of "everything in the past, the present and the future is condensed into an infinitesimal point called "Now" ", but rather in the sense that all events only seem to happen, whereas they actually don't. The laws of physics are equally only a concept, like numbers or words. They don't really exist. I'm not saying that we should dismiss them altogether, they are a great tool, but do not confuse them with the real world.

What you call "laws of physics" is a linguistic attempt to box seemingly appearing patterns, which have no substance to them whatsoever, that's all.

 

 

[Apparition of Jack]

2 hours ago, Red-White-Light said:

The entirety of reality would collapse if the laws of physics weren’t consistent.

That’s where the fun begins

[PopoyeSailor]

Things you can research(Some resources linked):

To search CIA research documents and articles on "ESP", "Psychic", "Remote Viewing", "UFO" etc., Go to this CIA Webpage https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/search/site/ and search for those keywords, you'll get many results. Clicking on them will take you to the particular article or research document's page, from where you can download the pdf file, which is usually numbered something like this: "cia-rdp96-00792r000300070001-7.pdf" under the title "Attachment".

 

From CIA public release documents:

CIA's Gateway Process - (Please read the whole report if possible - A must read for this forum members):

Old Yogic States of Conciousness with Siddhi type powers like reading past, future and OBEs using Modern Methods of Hemi Sync Tapes / Binaural Beats, etc. In my opinion the assessor had to bullshit his way through some of the stuff by replacing the old paradigms with made up scientific concepts and names to please the concerned people so that it doesn't get rejected by getting a stigma of an occult phenomena, which is evident from what he himself says at the end of the first paragraph itself.

ANALYSIS AND ASSESSMENT OF GATEWAY PROCESS 
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00788r001700210016-5

 

1 - Psychic Phenomena:

AN ASSESSMENT OF THE EVIDENCE FOR PSYCHIC FUNCTIONING (Read the conclusions on page 20 & 21)
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00791r000200070001-9

STUDY OF SOME ESP TESTING METHODS AND THEIR VALIDITY (Read Conclusion on page 21)
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00792r000300070001-7

U.S. SPACE ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL REVIEWS TELEPATHIC PHENOMENA AS ENERGY TRANSFER
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/nsa-rdp96x00790r000100040002-2

PROPOSAL FOR AND INITIAL SPECIFICATIONS OF PROJECT SUN STREAK BIBLIOGRAPHIC DATABASE(Project to catalogue all sorts of phychic phenomena from ESP, OBE, REINCARNATION, etc. etc.. Published by anyone)
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00789r003700720001-2

CIA's Interest in CHINA`S PSYCHIC CHILDREN:
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00792r000300420017-1

CIA's Interest in OBE(Out Of Body Experiences):
EXCEPTIONAL HUMAN EXPERIENCE, OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCES
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00792r000700350009-4

 

Prahlad jani(passed away now):

 

Dynamo Jack:

 

Buddha Boy:

 

Edited September 7, 2020 by PopoyeSailor

[Nahm]

@Tim R

Indeed. Consistency is only apparent of course, like everything else. I saw this as well, and went and tried out some of this seemingly consistent reality at an unsuspecting reiki class in a yoga center. Then siddhi’s were as realized as this air, and “where two or more are gathered in my name, there I am” never sounded the same again. You know how it is...sometimes an old simple saying explodes within in a new and delightful profundity. The intellect  too is mere apparent consistence, and in a sense is swapped for siddhis, by the prior, or more inner krya intention & sentiment of selfless love & healing. You are already ‘there’ my friend. Simply put yourself in the location, the proximity, the together. Love will do the rest and blow your mind. Godspeed. 

[Red-White-Light]

1 hour ago, Tim R said:

You don't wake up to the same world everyday. Time is a construction of the mind. How much time passes between going to sleep and waking up?

No time at all. There is no difference between going to sleep and waking up, it's one and the same event. Everything happens at once, now. Not in the sense of "everything in the past, the present and the future is condensed into an infinitesimal point called "Now" ", but rather in the sense that all events only seem to happen, whereas they actually don't. The laws of physics are equally only a concept, like numbers or words. They don't really exist. I'm not saying that we should dismiss them altogether, they are a great tool, but do not confuse them with the real world.

What you call "laws of physics" is a linguistic attempt to box seemingly appearing patterns, which have no substance to them whatsoever, that's all.

 

 

The experience of time is an illusion, not time itself. Time is an integral part of space-time. It’s clearly measurable. Just because you fall asleep and you‘re not  conscious of it, doesn’t mean it won’t take place. For example if you fell asleep and a bowling ball fell on your head. There’s gravity operating in time and space to crack your skull.

Edited September 7, 2020 by Red-White-Light

[Tim R]

17 minutes ago, Red-White-Light said:

The experience of time is an illusion, not time itself. Time is an integral part of space-time. It’s clearly measurable.

There is no time outside from your thought. Time itself is a thought, an idea. It isn't "out there" as a property of the universe.

To say "you can measure time " is exactly like saying "length is an actual property of the universe ".

There is no length, neither are there height, depth, seconds, minutes, years, inches, miles, up, down, left, right, outside, inside, right, wrong, here, there, heavy, soft, light, hard, and so forth and so on, all these "properties" are concepts you've projected on the universe, which in and of itself has none of them.

Including time and space, or as you'd call it the space-time-continuum.

Watch a baby trying to grab the sun.

 

Of course space and time are interconnected as a space-time-continuum, because time and space define each other. But only as concepts, not in reality.

Gravity is just like that. Newton's law of universal gravitation is based on "separate objects", a "space between them" to which these objects relate, and empiricism, as you can see:

F(G) = Gamma * ((M1*M2) / r^2)

F(G) is the gravitation force, M1 and M2 stands for the mass of both objects and gamma is the empirical constant.

Now you'd argue that "oh but what about Gamma? Gamma is the universal constant, Gamma is what is real, Gamma is actually out there in the universe!! Gamma is the proof that gravity is MORE than a mere concept!!"

No it isn't. Gamma is empirically derived. Empiricism in turn is based on repetitive experience, which in turn is based on the past, that is to say, experience which stays the same over the course of time.

Time however isn't real in the first place. The past doesn't exist, does it? No it doesn't, what exists is memory and memory obviously exists only now.

The past is the content of memory mistaken for actuality. That is why empiricism is not able to deliver the truth.

 

So yeah, a bowling ball could crush my head, but not because of gravity, but because it only seems to fall and crush my head

[Red-White-Light]

@Tim R

These are the ramblings of a mad man.

27 minutes ago, Tim R said:

There is no time outside from your thought. Time itself is a thought, an idea. It isn't "out there" as a property of the universe.

To say "you can measure time " is exactly like saying "length is an actual property of the universe ".

There is no length, neither are there height, depth, seconds, minutes, years, inches, miles, up, down, left, right, outside, inside, right, wrong, here, there, heavy, soft, light, hard, and so forth and so on, all these "properties" are concepts you've projected on the universe, which in and of itself has none of them.

Including time and space, or as you'd call it the space-time-continuum.

Watch a baby trying to grab the sun.

 

Of course space and time are interconnected as a space-time-continuum, because time and space define each other. But only as concepts, not in reality.

Gravity is just like that. Newton's law of universal gravitation is based on "separate objects", a "space between them" to which these objects relate, and empiricism, as you can see:

F(G) = Gamma * ((M1*M2) / r^2)

F(G) is the gravitation force, M1 and M2 stands for the mass of both objects and gamma is the empirical constant.

Now you'd argue that "oh but what about Gamma? Gamma is the universal constant, Gamma is what is real, Gamma is actually out there in the universe!! Gamma is the proof that gravity is MORE than a mere concept!!"

No it isn't. Gamma is empirically derived. Empiricism in turn is based on repetitive experience, which in turn is based on the past, that is to say, experience which stays the same over the course of time.

Time however isn't real in the first place. The past doesn't exist, does it? No it doesn't, what exists is memory and memory obviously exists only now.

The past is the content of memory mistaken for actuality. That is why empiricism is not able to deliver the truth.

 

So yeah, a bowling ball could crush my head, but not because of gravity, but because it only seems to fall and crush my head

 

[Tim R]

13 minutes ago, Red-White-Light said:

@Tim R

These are the ramblings of a mad man.

 

@Red-White-Light At least you got that right. Happy to help?

 

[gswva]

1 hour ago, Tim R said:

There is no time outside from your thought.

We don't have to call it time, but there is still some kind of linear evolution emerging from the way consciousness seems to process itself. You might call it an illusion but that's just playing word game and denying the cause of such state of awareness.

Frame A / tangled state / now -> (infinite processing of love/fear in a mysterious discrete delta of the existential plane continuum) -> Frame B

The growth of this process might be imaginary, but the process itself isn't.

Edited September 7, 2020 by gswva

[Tim R]

23 minutes ago, gswva said:

We don't have to call it time, but there is still some kind of linear evolution emerging from the way consciousness seems to process itself. You might call it an illusion but that's just playing word game and denying the cause of such state of awareness.

Frame A / tangled state / now -> (infinite processing of love/fear in a mysterious discrete delta of the existential plane continuum) -> Frame B

The growth of this process might be imaginary, but the process itself isn't.

@gswva This "linear evolution emerging from the way consciousness seems to process itself " is your abstract conception of time!! As Rupert Spira put it so delightfully: "Time is thought superimposed upon eternity." 

That is exactly correct. There is only the eternal Now. Nothing linear, only the appearance of a succession of events.

[gswva]

1 hour ago, Tim R said:

That is exactly correct. There is only the eternal Now. Nothing linear, only the appearance of a succession of events.

You're avoiding the explanation of the perception itself. I'm not talking about time from others point of view. I'm talking about myself, the dream state. How this process can appear as seemingly continuous to me. The experience of it is very truthful, even if you call it appearance or illusion.

Edited September 7, 2020 by gswva

[Tim R]

@gswva Let me try to give you an in-depth answer.

Time consists of past, present and future, right? At least the way it's seen conventionally.

Past: Memories which you confuse to be actual, in other words: you think the past exists, somewhere, somehow. Memories exist (now). But they're not the same as "the past". It doesn't exist. How could it; everything which exists can only exist now, so it wouldn't be the past.

Present: What is.

Future: An illusion, created by misinterpretation of memory. If you interpret one memory in connection to either another memory or the present moment (which is the only thing you could ever remember) as a consecutive succession of events (because you confuse memory with actuality), you create the illusion of linear time.

The mind's line of reasoning is: "the past exists (mistaken memory) and the present moment immediately becomes the past, followed by the "next" present (because you think there is a past which gives rise to the present). To my past-self, my present-self was the future-self".

I underlined the "was" so you can see how the future is created by memory mistaken for the past.

Just watch your mind very, very carefully, you can actually become aware of this. It is incredibly convincing, of course!!! The mind is the ultimate magician.

[Red-White-Light]

@Tim R Discernment from concept and imagination to actuality is what you’re talking about. And that’s why spiritual figures talk about the present moment, because that’s where actuality takes place. It doesn’t deny time, it simply acknowledges that all we can directly experience is the here, now. 

[The0Self]

Rationality, laws of physics, judging, not judging, everything, nothing. These are all merely obstructions you've set before yourself because you're putting off love and renunciation of the mind until a so called later date.

[Tim R]

12 minutes ago, Red-White-Light said:

It doesn’t deny time, it simply acknowledges that all we can directly experience is the here, now. 

@Red-White-Light Yes, it denies time. It denies the past and the future (that's what time consists of) and for good reason.

There is nothing but the present. There can't ever be anything apart from the present, because being is presence. It's even synonymous.

"was" isn't.

"will be" isn't.

Only is.

[Mafortu]

Some cringe answers here, but we can ultimately salvage three conclusions:

1- Supernatural powers are as real as Hogwarts or Aladdin's genie. They are manifestations of god, just like we. Real or fake holds little distinction from this perspective, and rightfully so. 

Now..

2- Does anyone have one and are able to prove it live in a room with renown scientists and physicists? No. And anyone believing so is just being deluded.

3- Can you have an experience of it? Yes, and most likely in altered sates of consciousness. But Point 2 cannot be refuted no matter how hard anyone wants it.

Edited September 7, 2020 by Mafortu

[Red-White-Light]

@Tim R You clearly don’t understand what time is. I have clearly stated that the present moment is all that we can directly experience, however it doesn’t disprove Spacetime. Let’s take an example, if you took a 3D circle and put it through a 2D world, the 2D world would only render slices (cross-section) of the circle. Just because you’re only seeing one slice of the circle in a 2D reality it doesn’t mean there isn’t an entire spherical circle.

The 4th Dimension is just Height x Width x Length x Time, making it Space-time. Just as Length x Width x Height are lines that make up dimensions. Time is also a line, with past, present and future, making it another dimension.

Now consider the example. In the 2D world you can only see width x length, not height and, as a result, you dismiss the fact that the 3D circle is passing through the 2D world. If you were to only experience the 2D reality, you’d only see a 2D circle growing and shrinking, which isn’t the case. 

When you experience time in cross-sections (frames), you only experience the present moment. If you say that all that exists is the present moment, you’re not understanding time as a dimension, like a measurable line. 

Why do you think we have clocks? ⏰ 

Edited September 7, 2020 by Red-White-Light

[The0Self]

46 minutes ago, Mafortu said:

Some cringe answers here, but we can ultimately salvage three conclusions:

1- Supernatural powers are as real as Hogwarts or Aladdin's genie. They are manifestations of god, just like we. Real or fake holds little distinction from this perspective, and rightfully so. 

Now..

2- Does anyone have one and are able to prove it live in a room with renown scientists and physicists? No. And anyone believing so is just being deluded.

3- Can you have an experience of it? Yes, and most likely in altered sates of consciousness. But Point 2 cannot be refuted no matter how hard anyone wants it.

Proof still requires assumptions, such as the world is real, thus proof does not actually exist. These are all just excuses to keep on dreaming endless thoughts.