Leo manifesting objects in the real world out of nothing.

[whatthefucksgoinon]

I heard stories of advanced yogi manifesting things into existence but even they say in the end its pointless and your energy should be directed towards realization not powers

[Registered]

@Leo Gura Nothingness summons nothingness himself. 

Edited August 24, 2020 by Registered

[danniviemaria]

16 hours ago, Registered said:

I saw a comment of yours, that you too wondered this. 
When we awaken and become god, why can't we manifest a marble in the real world? Have you gotten any further with this?
If one is truly awakened and realizes that one is god why does a list of limitations remain even during the moment you are actually aware of being it.
Why can you not change the capacity of the Leo avatar and let him download infinite knowledge?
Why is separation back to ego inevitable?
Why has no one yet been able to demonstrate such seemingly supernatural qualities?
  

Why you want to know it? 
That is the answer. Ask yourself.

[DreamScape]

In higher dimensions, in heaven, this is the norm. The physical, material arena we are in is limited. 

From my intuition, only really spiritually mature folks can do it, because otherwise it would be used immaturely. 

[allislove]

@Registered ?

[Member]

2 hours ago, DreamScape said:

In higher dimensions, in heaven, this is the norm. The physical, material arena we are in is limited. 

From my intuition, only really spiritually mature folks can do it, because otherwise it would be used immaturely. 

Higher dimensions are accessed by the mind which we assume is limited. I doubt that only spiritually mature folks can do it. There are plenty of folks who can curse you and their words can cause you a lot of damage (of course, if you allow them to do it).

[Godhead]

8 hours ago, Registered said:

You have all become what you swore to destroy. You have made the seeking of truth a religion. Created your own lingo by adopting old words and attaching new meaning to them. This allows your ego to feel superior. Now you sense a purpose. But in the end, you've just traded one unprovable theory for another. You've deluded yourself into faith, thinking you know but all you have is belief.  Somewhere along the road, you stopped questioning and became a fanatic. 

For myself, I can speak out of 'experience'. The question I have for you: Why do you ask questions for which you already have answers? 

[Registered]

7 hours ago, danniviemaria said:

Why you want to know it? 
That is the answer. Ask yourself.

Its a crucial question, you do not understand the significance of it. You need to be openminded and truthful with your intent when investigating this dilemma. The ramifications of pretending to understand are significant.  Without a solution to extreme contradiction, the worldview you hold true shatters.  Leo himself understands that he's hit a wall with this, which is why you don't see him here. 

3 hours ago, DreamScape said:

In higher dimensions, in heaven, this is the norm. The physical, material arena we are in is limited. 

From my intuition, only really spiritually mature folks can do it, because otherwise it would be used immaturely. 

You are in heaven. You are in hell. You are everything, you are nothing. There is nowhere to go. 

1 hour ago, allislove said:

@Registered ?

<3

1 hour ago, Godhead said:

For myself, I can speak out of 'experience'. The question I have for you: Why do you ask questions for which you already have answers? 

I too am speaking from experience. Questions arise to the fallacy that is thought. Needed to investigate if i'm the one not understanding or whether I'm missing some puzzle pieces to see the whole picture clearly. I tried to investigate on my own, contradiction remained. This was the next step. Especially after seeing a question Leo had posted regarding this a year ago.

[Registered]

14 hours ago, mp22 said:

He can't manifest anything because he is playing inside his brain. Just like there won't be any quantum healing or teleportation or talking to spirits or anything else.

The world being perfect is just the excuse created by fanboys to explain away the Master's inability to produce a single tangible proof of Godhood.

 

It's quite sad really. I can understand how he got caught up in it though. He himself wants to believe it's true so badly. And mushrooms at lower doses really do give insights and understanding of real-world social structures and alike. Spirituality is a big ecosystem, the "guru's" feed of each other. They think "What am I missing that the other person understands?" Which keeps them caught up with one-upping each other. And somewhere along the way, they lose their critical thinking. Give a person some logical points soon they'll think everything you give them is logical. Then there comes a point you've been caught up in it for so long, you don't want to look into facts dismantling the worldview rather trying to find solutions that can keep it in place. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. You become a defence lawyer to your worldview. 

[danniviemaria]

@Registered

Actually I did being blown by @Mindflow’s thread.

Read it meh? 
Research for it meh?

The notion you got itself is your favorite one only. And even that no one cannot tell that is right or wrong.

I don’t know.

You did have some answers so why you are still keeping debate on every answers that you got. You are keeping that for what?

Asking will be not enough to experience.

I don’t know.

 

Edited August 24, 2020 by danniviemaria

[Gesundheit]

@Registered Reality is no different from a movie. Only you're thrown in the middle of it to experience it directly. If at some point you are able to manifest things, it's not you. It's the movie. Same thing with other people.

[Bluff]

It actually does work. Every reality that you can imagine can exist. For God to be infinite, there must be a man being able to manifest objects. But also for God to be infinite, there must be a reality in which no man can do that. Find out which reality you experience

[PopoyeSailor]

On 8/24/2020 at 5:32 AM, Registered said:

You have all become what you swore to destroy. You have made the seeking of truth a religion. Created your own lingo by adopting old words and attaching new meaning to them. This allows your ego to feel superior. Now you sense a purpose. But in the end, you've just traded one unprovable theory for another. You've deluded yourself into faith, thinking you know but all you have is belief.  Somewhere along the road, you stopped questioning and became a fanatic. 

Its perfectly normal to feel this way. Anybody without witnessing anything directly will always have some resistance towards it. I also remember how I used to be.

You are in a certain state of mind right now. In your current condition any reference to any story which was recorded in some book or by witness accounts will not satisfy you right now. Because you are looking for indisputable evidence for them and we have no readily available evidence except for said stories and witness reports. Even if some how if you get to witness such an event, your mind will explain it away by using some biased logical argumentation.

What I would suggest for you instead is to first do some research and learn about THOSE things which we DO have Some/Substantial evidence for(but still most of the population do not know and consider it to be unreal). Once you get exposed to a few of such experiences of knowing about things which seem impossible, but are very much true will open up your mind for further possibilities and your mind will find it easy to digest those other possibilities afterwards. 

You coming to this forum putting forth such questions is the first step. Congratulations on that.

Things you can research(Some resources linked):

To search CIA research documents and articles on "ESP", "Psychic", "Remote Viewing", "UFO" etc., Go to this CIA Webpage https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/search/site/ and search for those keywords, you'll get many results. Clicking on them will take you to the particular article or research document's page, from where you can download the pdf file, which is usually numbered something like this: "cia-rdp96-00792r000300070001-7.pdf" under the title "Attachment".

 

From CIA public release documents:

CIA's Gateway Process - (Please read the whole report if possible - A must read for this forum members):

Old Yogic States of Conciousness with Siddhi type powers like reading past, future and OBEs using Modern Methods of Hemi Sync Tapes / Binaural Beats, etc. In my opinion the assessor had to bullshit his way through some of the stuff by replacing the old paradigms with made up scientific concepts and names to please the concerned people so that it doesn't get rejected by getting a stigma of an occult phenomena, which is evident from what he himself says at the end of the first paragraph itself.

ANALYSIS AND ASSESSMENT OF GATEWAY PROCESS 
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00788r001700210016-5

 

1 - Psychic Phenomena:

AN ASSESSMENT OF THE EVIDENCE FOR PSYCHIC FUNCTIONING (Read the conclusions on page 20 & 21)
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00791r000200070001-9

STUDY OF SOME ESP TESTING METHODS AND THEIR VALIDITY (Read Conclusion on page 21)
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00792r000300070001-7

U.S. SPACE ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL REVIEWS TELEPATHIC PHENOMENA AS ENERGY TRANSFER
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/nsa-rdp96x00790r000100040002-2

PROPOSAL FOR AND INITIAL SPECIFICATIONS OF PROJECT SUN STREAK BIBLIOGRAPHIC DATABASE(Project to catalogue all sorts of phychic phenomena from ESP, OBE, REINCARNATION, etc. etc.. Published by anyone)
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00789r003700720001-2

CIA's Interest in CHINA`S PSYCHIC CHILDREN:
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00792r000300420017-1

CIA's Interest in OBE(Out Of Body Experiences):
EXCEPTIONAL HUMAN EXPERIENCE, OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCES
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00792r000700350009-4

 

 

2 - UFO Reports: (Says on top, many of them are unsubstantiated - suggesting some are substantial) 
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/collection/ufos-fact-or-fiction

I personally don't believe that any disclosure from top government is going to happen. Because I have seen the same kind of situations before. Nothing came out of it. But, if such a thing ever has to happen, Mr.Donald Trump is the only one unpredictable enough to do such a thing. Finger's crossed.

It is also possible all UFO phenomenon might just be a terrestrial secret government projects with UFO nonsense to coverup such projects.

I personally think there is some credibility to UFO Reports(But, still open minded about my beliefs being false), because of sheer amounts of cases and openly shared case files from other countries as well as too many people from CIA, NSA and Defence as well as NASA and other similar employees and contractors openly testified about them in "Disclosure Project" by Steven Green . But, nothing came out of it. That's why I'm skeptical about disclosure.

Recent Pentagon admittance of UFOs(They are not saying they are aliens - But couldn't explain them):

 

Disclosure Project by Steven Greer:

 

Citizen Hearing on Disclosure before retired congress members:

 

Probably bullshitting because of election. But anyway here it is:

 

There are also many documentaries on UFOs on youtube as well.

 

 

Occult Chemistry By Annie Besant and Charles Leadbeater - 3rd edition SINNETT (1919):(Theosophical Society from Adyar, South India)
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339298637_Occult_Chemistry_By_Annie_Besant_and_Charles_Leadbeater_-_3rd_edition_SINNETT_1919 (Dowload the PDF full text)
https://www.globalgreyebooks.com/ebooks/annie-besant/occult-chemistry/occult-chemistry.pdf

HTML Version Online: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16058/16058-h/16058-h.htm

 

Look closely, same Atom model in Occult Chemistry  work is shown as Torus in CIA's Project Gateway Process:

For reincarnation and near death experiences, there are many documentaries on youtube. 

3 - Reincarnation Research:

https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/our-research/children-who-report-memories-of-previous-lives/

Academic Publications:

https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/publications/academic-publications/children-who-remember-previous-lives-academic-publications/

Reincarnation deniers couldn't give proper explanation as to how in some cases, the birth marks and birth defects of a person remembering their past lives correspond exactly to the traumatic injuries of their previous birth.

 

4 - Near Death Experiences(NDE):

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6172100/ (Read the conclusion)

https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/our-research/near-death-experiences-ndes/

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-clues-found-in-understanding-near-death-experiences/  (Drugs also cause NDE like Experiences - which is well known in this forum)

Convieniently when people explain away the NDE's they use examples like above scientificamerican article to do so. But, they never explain about those cases where the person was able to accurately recall details about other events that happen from quite a distance from where their physical body is.

 

CIA's Interest in Near Death Experiences:

BASTERFIELD, KEITH. NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCES: AN AUSTRALIAN SURVEY
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00792r000700920001-9

LIFE AFTER DEATH
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00787r000200080041-9

 

 

Self Immolation of buddhist monk (Copy & fix the links by removing the spaces)

He said to have not uttered a word or moved. The jerky movements of his hands and legs you can see after he falls I think is due to involuntary muscle contractions due to heat and melting of body tissue.

https: // www. youtube. com/watch?v=ZwQTsCiguHc&bpctr=1598354602

Contrast to that, see this video where two people shout, run and roll down in pain:

https: // www. youtube. com/watch?v=tndFEn5WZrI

The Fire Yogi (Doesn't seem to have full control, covers his body with thick cloth):

Buddha Boy:

 

Prahlad jani - Fasting without food & water for several decades:

 

 

Kundalini Yoga / Kundalini Awakening:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5433116/ (Case for kundalini yoga being real. But, useless for the extent we want to understand it) Research for reduction of stress levels by doing kundalini yoga. You can read the conclusion if you do not want to read the entire thing(Its hard to understand anyway).

Research Proposal:

https://icrcanada.org/research/memorandum

https://icrcanada.org/research/literaryresearch

 

One of the oldest Kundalini community website: https://www.kundalini-gateway.org/klist/index.html

Unfortunately the founder of the above website El Collie committed suicide. I don't know whether she did that not being able to cope with extreme kundalini symptoms or with the intention to get permanent liberation. People claim it is the former. But, who knows!.

For Kundalini Awakening and the effects it Causes, Search youtube, with keywords: "Shaktipat" "Kundalini Awakening Experience" 

Video for understanding:

In the above video, since the blue shirt person is  the one doing the shaktipat(Energy Transmission).  He being the source, the people in whom the energy is activated becomes intoxicated and wants to go and merge into the source and become one with it. It's feels almost involuntary but you do have some control. Not everyone reacts the same way though. The way they behave depends on their acquired samskaras and Vasanas (Tendencies and conditioning).
 

Dynamo Jack:

 

The energy in this video what they call as chi is what is called as Kundalini in Vedic terms. This energy is being used in this video for healing, or heating things. The same energy when passes through the Sushumna Nadi(Central invisible channel in the body) and reaches top of the crown at the Brahma randhra causes Enlightenment/Liberation.

When this kundalini rises with in the body, it causes too much heat within the body, which sometimes is very uncomfortable. Sometimes it also rises with cooling effect. Generally it rises. But, in some people it descends too. 

Kundalini is not a fairy tale because I experienced it directly, which was like a volcanic eruption inside my body with heat filling up my whole body. Also causing violent swirls in different directions feeling like my whole being is swirling round and round for a while. There were other symptoms as well. It was a bit of a scary experience. It also causes involuntary bodily movements called kriyas. 

We all know the equation E=mc squared which means energy equals mass. When nuclear explosion happens, the small ball of uranium or plutonium of around 5 - 10 cms turns into enormous amounts of energy. Similarly I believe when enormous amount of energy is concentrated in a single spot and stabilised will create solid matter. This can be understood from the fact that when gas is compressed, it turns into liquid, when compressed further turns into solid. But, in order to do so, it requires enormous amounts of pressure.

From my understanding, I think when enormous amounts of this energy is directed and focused with an intention to turn it into an object will create that object. 

For E,g: Babies doesn't even have the bodily nerve and muscle configuration necessary to speak their first word. But, they start only with the intention first to say the word. The very intention when exercised again and again by directing it into physical activity creates the necessary muscular and neuronal structure necessary to produce that exact word. Which later they learn to produce all other words with the same method. 

Similarly, may be this energy when directed with intention may produce desired effect in the world creating the object.

Just look around the world, all the big buildings to cities to bridges to space rockets to nuclear weapons to everything else man has produced. All of them he created in his mind first, which later directed by physical activity, has manifested into reality.

As for the credibility of these phenomena posted above, some of them or many of them might be not what they seem to be. But, to reject all of them as fake without digging deep into their truth would be crazy.

As for manifesting actual stuff into reality, generally yogis do not create stuff, its much harder. They simply move things from one place to another. Lets say you ask for an apple, they'd simply steal it from a market or an orchard: sort of like teleportation. But, just as a sample, like somebody mentioned here already, there is a story in Autobiography of a yogi which says a master had created a whole palace studded with gems by combining the ambient air or something. There are many such stories in that same book. Through out history there are way too many such reports, to reject all of them as false may not be wise.

There are thousands of such books describing thousands of such accounts. Probably not all of them are true, nor are all of them false.

Keeping an open mind is helpful. But, at the same time not too open that you believe anything and everything.

Edited August 26, 2020 by PopoyeSailor

[Mindflow]

@danniviemaria After lots of looking for how to get involved in a study I haven’t found anything yet, validating my abilities sounds like a choice option. My word and the evidence shown is all there is. 
It doesn’t look like there has been an in-depth study showcasing what I bring to the table. 
Replicating my materialization process under a lab setting would be easy and I hope I can eventually, for everyone. I would even record myself if I had the money for cameras, a mediation chamber, etc. but I don’t believe there needs to be video for the general public, that seems exploitive. I wouldn’t want to send the wrong idea for how anyone should be living. 
 

[Bulgarianspirit]

These abilities can be used to save the planet... Humanity.. etc

So they aren't useless per say.

In fact spirituality in it's current format is quite useless.

Go find mahasamadhi for yourself. Leave everyone behind seek salvation. Instead of being selfless and serving to others.

Also showing abilities might be one of the ways to change humanity's blindness.

This reality might be a collective dream and together the perceivers aka souls create it.

Maybe if everyone becomes enlightened we can make a better world for all.

 

[Dodo]

On 23/08/2020 at 10:54 AM, Registered said:

I saw a comment of yours, that you too wondered this. 
When we awaken and become god, why can't we manifest a marble in the real world? Have you gotten any further with this?
If one is truly awakened and realizes that one is god why does a list of limitations remain even during the moment you are actually aware of being it.
Why can you not change the capacity of the Leo avatar and let him download infinite knowledge?
Why is separation back to ego inevitable?
Why has no one yet been able to demonstrate such seemingly supernatural qualities?
  

When you are God, there is no other. No world. For world and self you need to veil something and dream an inside and an outside 

Edited September 16, 2020 by Dodo

[danniviemaria]

@Mindflow

Actually it’s your gift. And how you use it. How you use it means how conscious you are. And you (everyone) don’t ever know what you’re missing now in term of consciousness itself.

Expanding it.

There are ways to the ultimate truth, salvation, intelligent, love and so on. Do you know what? I don’t know how solid it is but I did ask a guy on this forum and at that time he was in the God mode. 

—

Why you created magick? 

“So can you find God”, said he.

—

Something is higher is the missing. The higher is beyond the what-you-have-known-now.

And Actualized.org is the great place to expand it - consciousness.

I did describe some my limited knowing. Down-to-earthly, I think you have had a certain spiritual experience but it is still needed to develop, you need to develop yourself to live in the advanced modern world of technology. I don’t know where your stage at Spiral dynamics or the 9 stages of ego development, it is needed for everyone to develop to the highest level as possible even for spiritual seekers (it’s much more needed). 

Your post is not really clear what you are tempted to point . You need both, spiritual and science. 

Science itself is a great way to help people in the human-animal capacities. 

Biotech can hack human. So how about what-is-not-human in human? That is spiritual.

Let me share my insight about this work.  First, It is to experience your own experience. Second, why you think there is something because in somehow (that is what I have been spoiled a lot that I* am* God*) you (not your body or thoughts) are so alone. 

Doctor (contributor) is not the most healthy person but it needs to be the most healthy person to be a doctor (contributor). 

[VeganAwake]

Your apparent thought and belief has no effect on THIS whatsoever.... can you guys understand this... like literally, what you believe or don't believe does not matter in any way at all to existence.

You are not the center of the universe. No matter how much the ego wants to believe it's so.

Nope not happening!!

Get over it move on!!

Next!!

[purerogue]

Must love synchronicity, I were just thinking going to work if when I come back this will show up  

I guess you can probably break limits, but thing is that consciousness is connected, so it probably would need some very deep understanding, states to manage to do extraordinary things. 

Edited September 16, 2020 by purerogue

[Dodo]

Leo has manifested in my dreams. Enuff said