richard dawkins

[Nahm]

@Nemo28

No. There’s no experience, no appearance, no forms, no collapsing, no me, no you. 

[Nemo28]

On 28/08/2020 at 0:25 AM, Nahm said:

No. There’s no experience, no appearance, no forms, no collapsing, no me, no you. 

If i were to ask you how do you know this? you would probably answer ""I dont"

So its a knowlede you intuit, you feel it right?

Im confused when you say there is neither of these things, i well understand that these are all concepts and experience is what we define it to be, ofc there is no such thing hanging from ceiling called experience, but cmon you know what i mean, im refering to THIS! THIS is ExperiencE. 

I am aware that intelect has divided life into objects like "me" and "you" this and that. I recognize the undivided I am-ness within me which cant be reduced to anything less. I am is the ultimate knowledge or would you deny evdn that? But understand that im not believing in concept of "I am"  I am feeling it deeply and it never changes it is constant, if that is not real that i dont know what is, thats the only thing no ?

[Nahm]

@Nemo28

There isn’t even anyone asking, and nothing being asked. 

[Nemo28]

@Nahm You just substituting word "I am-nees" for "nothing". I think we refer to same feeling.

[WaveInTheOcean]

Neil is right in the sense that consciousness isn't a thing that can be found or be explained. There is no consciousness to figure out.

Consciousness is the very substance of existence. Consciousness is what is. Everything is consciousness. Have anyone ever experienced something that was not appearing in consciousness? No - lol.

Neil is wrong in the way he *denies* consciousness, though.

Oh it's fun.

The Bill Nye guy is the most religious of them all, though. Listen to his religious view of how a copy of his brain would not contain his memories, basically contradicting himself, it's hilarious: