Half a year of semen retention, ask me anything

[Kshantivadin]

The only orgasm came from wet dreams, which become rarer over time, and can be partially controlled (not thinking about sex, not having a hearthy meal at night, emptying your bladder before sleep etc).

I started NoFap January 1st, 2017. Of course I failed many times.

A year and a half later I started retaining my semen, even in sex. Of course I failed many times.

Now it's half a year - I guess I conquered nofap and went a little overboard with it to be honest. But I'm just like that.

Ask me anything.

Edited August 13, 2020 by Kshantivadin

[Kshantivadin]

Just now, BlackMaze said:

Morning wood? 

what about it? Sometimes I do have it, sometimes I don't.

[Consilience]

Does it feel healthy suppressing your sexual energy and desire? 

What’s the distinction between sexual transmutation and sexual repression? 

Do you really need 1/2’s worth of semen retention to conquer your goals, attract women, and become successful? 

[Danioover9000]

   How does your workouts feel while retaining? Noticed any changes with muscle contractions and recovery before/after semen retention?

[Evil Raccoon]

How to have sex without busting?

[Gesundheit]

Pros vs. Cons?

Do you recommend it?

And will you keep doing it?

[bobbyward]

@Kshantivadin how has it affected your sleep? Some people report finding it hard to get to sleep, because of too much energy and mind racing 

[Consilience]

2 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

   How does your workouts feel while retaining? Noticed any changes with muscle contractions and recovery before/after semen retention?

30 days for me and I didn't feel any difference. For workout recovery nutrition, sleep, hydration, prehab, and a solid training program are all going to be the most impactful imo. Used to be way into bodybuilding/powerlifting and these variables always reigned supreme. I was getting phenomenal results back in the day despite constantly pmo’ing and having sex with my girlfriend at the time.

Maybe it has made a difference for op.

[Kshantivadin]

4 hours ago, Consilience said:

Does it feel healthy suppressing your sexual energy and desire? 

What’s the distinction between sexual transmutation and sexual repression? 

Do you really need 1/2’s worth of semen retention to conquer your goals, attract women, and become successful? 

1. The body is way healthier, needs less nutrients, recovers faster. I have had various infections, colds, flus, which didn't affect me that much, I just slept a bit more and that's it. So I didn't truly get sick in a long time, despite spending my childhood and teen years ill a lot of the time.

On the other hand, the energy easily gets stuck and that can be really unhealthy for the mind, I don't know how much for the body.

I know you didn't mean to write a loaded question - desire is not suppressed, that's a mistake beginners make. You don't slap your fingers whenever you think of sex. Energy also isn't "supressed", it just finds other channels to flow through, although (!) it can easily get stuck.

Also, sexual desire can be satisfied through sex. I am not practicing brahmacharya, I only abstain from ejaculation. You don't need to ejaculate, nor orgasm, to be satisfied.

2. It's a hard distinction, I would consider myself to repress it way more than transmute it.

Repression would be having your energy stuck in the sacral chakra, transmutation would mean free flow of energy.

3. Yes, and no. I don't know anymore. I always forget what it's like to be a "coomer".

If you can conquer your sexuality, you can conquer anything.

 

Edited August 13, 2020 by Kshantivadin

[Carl-Richard]

Do you feel anxious ever? Stiff? On edge? Restless?

Edited August 13, 2020 by Carl-Richard

[Kshantivadin]

4 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

   How does your workouts feel while retaining? Noticed any changes with muscle contractions and recovery before/after semen retention?

 

1 hour ago, Consilience said:

30 days for me and I didn't feel any difference. For workout recovery nutrition, sleep, hydration, prehab, and a solid training program are all going to be the most impactful imo. Used to be way into bodybuilding/powerlifting and these variables always reigned supreme. I was getting phenomenal results back in the day despite constantly pmo’ing and having sex with my girlfriend at the time.

Maybe it has made a difference for op.

I don't know how "not retaining" feels. I haven't not retained in a long time. I know, though, that when I have a wet dream, which earlier on in the journey (when I could barely do 30 days) didn't affect me that much, way less than "relapsing" - now, I feel drained that day, needing to eat more, feeling less motivated, and the like.

All I can say is that I recover really fast, and usually got that extra physical/mental strength/zest that would definitely give you an edge in sports.

[Kshantivadin]

4 hours ago, BlackMaze said:

@Kshantivadin so no negative impact on that or anything else because of no fap? 

I can't say whether it had a negative impact or not, because reality is constantly changing, at it would be deluded of me to imply causation on my morning wood because of nofap. Things change.

Although I know for sure that because of nofap, I don't give a fuck whether I have a morning wood or not

Flatline is a real thing though.

[Kshantivadin]

4 hours ago, Evil Raccoon said:

How to have sex without busting?

By desiring Truth and Love more than orgastic pleasure.

If your question implied that you don't want to bust but struggle with it, the answer is the same.

If you associate ejaculating with not achieving your dreams long enough, orgasming becomes so repulsive to you because of its qualities, that the first aspect - wanting to cum - fades. Then you have to tackle the physical aspect of your body-mind being really inclined to ejaculate.

Mentally, it's solved by having a mind that's at least a bit trained in concentration and with at least a bit of training in awareness. You need to be able to concentrate on not cumming while being engrossed by such a powerful experience that is sex and such a powerful energy and a powerful drive to cum. Also, you need to be aware of the sensations in the body, the energy flow, the intensity of your arousal, etc.

Physically, you need to train your PC muscles with kegel exercises.

Taoists have a lot of publically available sexual energy circulation and semen retention and non-ejaculatory orgasm resources. For example, look up Taoist Secrets of Love by Mantak Chia.

Edited August 13, 2020 by Kshantivadin

[Danioover9000]

@Kshantivadin

8 minutes ago, Kshantivadin said:

 

I don't know how "not retaining" feels. I haven't not retained in a long time. I know, though, that when I have a wet dream, which earlier on in the journey (when I could barely do 30 days) didn't affect me that much, way less than "relapsing" - now, I feel drained that day, needing to eat more, feeling less motivated, and the like.

All I can say is that I recover really fast, and usually got that extra physical/mental strength/zest that would definitely give you an edge in sports.

   This is similar to how not retaining affects me physically. If people say relapsing has little effect on fitness, then even a moderate fap a day, or a binge would not effect me much, except it does lessen my energy and my need to hit the gym. While retaining, my recovery and my ability to exert more force and endurance is improved. My reaction times also went up.

   With wet dreams, it could vary, but mostly the fluids aren't seminal fluids, but mostly clear fluids with some semen. Dream sex, in most cases, lacks that extra conscious effort in real sex, when you're close to ejaculating you put effort into ejaculating, whereas in dreaming it's a different level of consciousness that whether or not you're lucid, you don't put as much into contracting into the ejaculation, hence most times not as draining. 

[Danioover9000]

29 minutes ago, Kshantivadin said:

1. The body is way healthier, needs less nutrients, recovers faster. I have had various infections, colds, flus, which didn't affect me that much, I just slept a bit more and that's it. So I didn't truly get sick in a long time, despite spending my childhood and teen years ill a lot of the time.

On the other hand, the energy easily gets stuck and that can be really unhealthy for the mind, I don't know how much for the body.

I know you didn't mean to write a loaded question - desire is not suppressed, that's a mistake beginners make. You don't slap your fingers whenever you think of sex. Energy also isn't "supressed", it just finds other channels to flow through, although (!) it can easily get stuck.

Also, sexual desire can be satisfied through sex. I am not practicing brahmacharya, I only abstain from ejaculation. You don't need to ejaculate, nor orgasm, to be satisfied.

2. It's a hard distinction, I would consider myself to repress it way more than transmute it.

Repression would be having your energy stuck in the sacral chakra, transmutation would mean free flow of energy.

3. Yes, and no. I don't know anymore. I always forget what it's like to be a "coomer".

If you can conquer your sexuality, you can conquer anything.

 

   Also, most people don't realize that Nofap and semen retention has some health effects to it, and greater resilience to illness.  

[Kshantivadin]

2 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Kshantivadin

   This is similar to how not retaining affects me physically. If people say relapsing has little effect on fitness, then even a moderate fap a day, or a binge would not effect me much, except it does lessen my energy and my need to hit the gym. While retaining, my recovery and my ability to exert more force and endurance is improved. My reaction times also went up.

   With wet dreams, it could vary, but mostly the fluids aren't seminal fluids, but mostly clear fluids with some semen. Dream sex, in most cases, lacks that extra conscious effort in real sex, when you're close to ejaculating you put effort into ejaculating, whereas in dreaming it's a different level of consciousness that whether or not you're lucid, you don't put as much into contracting into the ejaculation, hence most times not as draining. 

Wet dreams can be non-sexual and sexual. I haven't had a sexual dream in a long time where I didn't orgasm from just a single hint of sexuality, which could indicate my levels of frustration. If there is a scene where I'm about to fuck, I cum before I even put my dick inside, so I don't know about the conscious effort part.

1 minute ago, Danioover9000 said:

   Also, most people don't realize that Nofap and semen retention has some health effects to it, and greater resilience to illness.  

Taoists are really big on the health aspect of retention. Nevermind that, common sense (ie the survival-preoccupied mind) would say that retaining is more useful for the body (survival) than ejaculating.

[Kshantivadin]

3 hours ago, Gesundheit said:

Pros vs. Cons?

Do you recommend it?

And will you keep doing it?

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Some of the most commonly noted benefits include:

More focus and mental clarity

Increased creativity

Enhanced motivation and drive

Boost of physical energy (good for those who suffer from fatigue)

More assertiveness and confidence

Improved mood

Greater ability to manifest change

Heightened self-awareness

Intensified spiritual experiences

Cons : you have to face your emotions, you have to take more care of the body since you're going against it's "programmed homeostasis mechanisms" which means you can fuck up stuff easily, for example sleep. It can be really hard.

2. Not everybody can handle this. You need to accept the possibility of going insane. It's a conscious manipulation of energy, which can always backfire.

I would of course recommend the usual porn-masturbation reboot, because normal people can't fuck themselves up that way, their capacity of the mind to repress energy and behavior is way too small to cause any problems. Most people are struggling with not touching their dick for a week, let alone a longer time. The reboot is an essential part of self-actualization where you make a qualitative leap from being a neckbeard addict to having intimacy with women.

3. I'm going to be doing it for life. It's a lifestyle. Touching my dick to pictures doesn't satisfy me anymore.

[universe]

1 hour ago, Kshantivadin said:

On the other hand, the energy easily gets stuck and that can be really unhealthy for the mind

What do you mean by this? You said its stuck in your sacral chakra. Ok, Im interested in the practical effect it has on you. Maybe you can give an example.

 

1 hour ago, Kshantivadin said:

Cons : you have to face your emotions, you have to take more care of the body since you're going against it's "programmed homeostasis mechanisms" which means you can fuck up stuff easily, for example sleep. It can be really hard.

What's the effect on your sleep?

[Danioover9000]

@Kshantivadin

20 hours ago, Kshantivadin said:

Wet dreams can be non-sexual and sexual. I haven't had a sexual dream in a long time where I didn't orgasm from just a single hint of sexuality, which could indicate my levels of frustration. If there is a scene where I'm about to fuck, I cum before I even put my dick inside, so I don't know about the conscious effort part.

Taoists are really big on the health aspect of retention. Nevermind that, common sense (ie the survival-preoccupied mind) would say that retaining is more useful for the body (survival) than ejaculating.

   Of course, sometimes people remember little to nothing about wet dreams, other than the mess. About the conscious part, if you or anyone here ever had lucid dreams you'll get the gist of it, but it's a skill that often starts when you remember a dream about anything other than sex, or when you accidentally go lucid in a dream. Most cases, most people wake up from the excitement experienced. I've had varying experiences in cases like these, and I'll say without undergoing any mindfulness training or visualization training, it's difficult to apply consciousness into a sex dream that's occuring in your unconsciousness real-time. Takes some practice, but it's quite rewarding when you can sustain that.

[Zigzag Idiot]