Why Stage Blue "represses" Sex

[GenuinePerspectiveXC]

2 hours ago, Parththakkar12 said:

LGBT shouldn't exist, because LGBT sex is too complicated to regulate. So it's convenient for us to make it a sin.

Who do you think became monks, priests, and nuns?

Neurochemically, a lot of the disgust that develops over homosexuality was evolved from the people who reproduced because they didn't catch diseases from homosexual promiscuity.  On one hand, bisexuality use to give adolescents experience in gaining the upper hand in love, relationships, and promiscuity.  The disadvantage is that it spreads disease.... like real quick.

Edited August 11, 2020 by GenuinePerspectiveXC

[Preety_India]

 

13 minutes ago, GenuinePerspectiveXC said:

In pre-blue societies, people don't usually know who the father is because the women in stage red and (some) purple societies usually have sex with a lot of partners.

So the whole point of the blue system's organization of coupling is to motivate fatherhood by establishing accountability.  Paternity testing though... would do a lot to speed that along.  Unfortunately, it can be met with a lot of resistance from both genders when transitioning from red to blue.

I just don't get you. 

Women in western countries also date many men. They usually know who the father is. 

How does a woman not allow the child to know who the father is? 

This has got nothing to do with who the woman sleeps with. 

A paternity test is so simple. What's the resistance for? 

Smh. 

So these kids grow up and get old without ever knowing who their dad is. 

Either I'm not getting this or you're representing  a severely exaggerated  picture of your culture. 

I don't think the women are like that there. 

Here there is no Thai or Filipino woman to talk about the women in your culture so I can't know for sure. 

I'm only hearing one side of the party and that can be biased information. 

 

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, GenuinePerspectiveXC said:

@Leo Gura

How many people do you think actually used that?  My guess would be ZERO in Vietnam which is a blue society. 

You have a tendency to focus on rare extremes and create stereotypes based off of those which is really screwing up the usefulness of the model for you.

You are the one who's so gross-minded that you cannot understand the subtlety of sexual repression, which is why I gave you a gross example.

If your mind was subtle, you would see the subtlety of it -- YES, in Vietnam.

Of course all sexual repression is done in the name of good, in the name of God.

[GenuinePerspectiveXC]

3 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

Women in western countries also date many men. They usually know who the father is.

There's also a lot of divorces and single moms in western culture, but paternity testing allows for child support payments.  There's also the concept of alimony that the west can enforce right now, but I wouldn't judge to be achievable for most Indian ex families.

 

5 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

A paternity test is so simple. What's the resistance for? 

During red-blue cultural transition, most of the men that are siring already have a family of their own and can't afford to support extra families.  Why, because they are sexually selected by the women as opposed to the drunk taxi driver I mentioned earlier.  And there's also a lot of cheating going on in these countries.  It's basically a national past time.

13 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

So these kids grow up and get old without ever knowing who their dad is.

The concept of a bastard is very common in pre-blue society.  In fact, if the mother is a prostitute, she's not going to know at all.

15 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

Either I'm not getting this or you're representing  a severely exaggerated  picture of your culture. 

I'm from the west, but I have lived in all of these countries for extended periods of time.  That's why I'm sharing my genuine perspective on cultural observations. 

[GenuinePerspectiveXC]

24 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You are the one who's so gross-minded that you cannot understand the subtlety of sexual repression, which is why I gave you a gross example.

If your mind was subtle, you would see the subtlety of it -- YES, in Vietnam.

Of course all sexual repression is done in the name of good, in the name of God.

I didn't say orange or green aren't more advanced so don't paint me as blue myself.  Jesus Christ, Leo. 

All I'm saying is the goal isn't necessarily repression, it's actually to encourage mating, albeit in an organized manner.  Red's non-system is more repressive because it keeps men from mating while they're in prison or getting killed in a castle siege.  It also prevents a lot of women from having long-term partners to sexually bond with.

Edited August 11, 2020 by GenuinePerspectiveXC

[Leo Gura]

13 minutes ago, GenuinePerspectiveXC said:

I didn't say orange or green aren't more advanced so don't paint me as blue myself.  Jesus Christ, Leo. 

I never called you Blue. I spoke only of your mind's lack of subtlety.

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All I'm saying is the goal isn't necessarily repression, it's actually to encourage mating, albeit in an organized manner.

The goal is always survival, in whatever way.

Stage Blue people are sexually repressed. Whether they mate or not. Stage Blue people are made to feel guilty and ashamed of their sexual desires. Most Stage Blue women can't even orgasm. In some Islamic countries they will even cauterize the clitoris so the women can't experience sexual pleasure.

At Blue, sexual repression takes a cornucopia of forms and styles.

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I once told a stage Blue Christian girlfriend to play with herself while I watched. She got angry and refused because: "I'm not a slut".

[GenuinePerspectiveXC]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Most Stage Blue women can't even orgasm.

Lol, bullshit.  They can, they do, and they love their husbands.  The biggest problem they have is the lack of space due to their whole families living in a small building.  Which is one reason why orange wealth is so awesome.

I think one major factor I've see that you've missed is the lower on the spiral a stage is, the stronger each previous stage is displayed in the person's characteristics.  Take cops for example.  Emotionally, they'll display camaraderie (developed in purple), a need for a monopoly on violence (developed in red) and quick reactions/reflexes (developed in beige).  It's like they're 30% blue, 20% red, 25% purple and 20% beige or some sort of distribution like that.

This distribution will get further diluted once the subject learns about stage Orange.

 

9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

In some Islamic countries they will even cauterize the clitoris so the women can't experience sexual pleasure.

Yeah, I'm aware of that.  I saw that in Afghanistan, but I wouldn't exactly call that a blue society.  It's mostly purple and red.

33 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I once told a stage Blue Christian girlfriend to play with herself while I watched. She got angry and refused because: "I'm not a slut".

That's hilarious.  In high school, I used to give my gf anal b/c it technically wasn't sex but the church and her dad had her wearing a 'promise ring' all the time.  Eventually though, we started having normal sex.  Had it been a normal blue system though, I probably would have married this girl at a young age and would have needed to mature up much quicker.

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, GenuinePerspectiveXC said:

In high school, I used to give my gf anal b/c it technically wasn't sex but the church and her dad had her wearing a 'promise ring' all the time.

You sneaky Orange devil.

That chastity belt was designed for the likes of you.

[GenuinePerspectiveXC]

29 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You sneaky Orange devil.

That chastity belt was designed for the likes of you.

Yeah, it wasn't exactly rocket science to figure out.

Edited August 11, 2020 by GenuinePerspectiveXC

[outlandish]

@GenuinePerspectiveXC good insight, I think you're looking at this correctly, and it agrees with what I've observed living in different societies (in Asia, Europe, the Americas) as well. 

This illuminates that reliable birth control and STD prevention is a prerequisite for moving from Blue->Orange->Green. With these sex technologies, society no longer becomes unstable in the absence of that pure no-sex-before-marriage, monogamy sexual organization that is so heavily enforced in Blue society. With reliable birth control, people are able to operate with more sexual fluidity, without destabilizing nuclear (etc) family structure.

This also explains why stage Blue is often very much against birth control, sex ed, STD prevention, HPV vaccine etc. These sex technologies actually are a threat to Blue, because they open the door to leaving that paradigm behind.

When "the pill" arrived in western society in the middle of the last century, it was a major catalyst to the sexual revolution, and a big part of the cultural revolution the moved an entire generation from Blue to Orange, and then some on to Green.

[Dryas]

If my mom caught me masturbating she'd totally freak out lol.

Just look at this imams explanation for why music is HARAMMM!

Edited August 11, 2020 by Dryas

[Forestluv]

@GenuinePerspectiveXC  You are highlighting the practical value of controlling sexual activity for social stability, from a Blue perspective. Yet you aren’t acknowledging the sexual repression inherent within that control. For example, Blue positions against birth control, pornography, homosexuality and sex outside of wedlock are forms of sexual repression. Blue can do this via laws, religion and guilt/shame. Whether this has practical value for social stability is distinct of it’s repressive nature. 

[outlandish]

1 minute ago, Forestluv said:

@GenuinePerspectiveXC  You are highlighting the practical value of controlling sexual activity for social stability, from a Blue perspective. Yet you aren’t acknowledging the sexual repression inherent within that control. 

That's correct, that's what OP is highlighting. But I think you (and others on this thread) are making the mistake that OP is condoning or defending it. I believe @GenuinePerspectiveXC is just observing this nature, and accurately so IMO. It's not a judgement on stage Blue sexual orientation, just looking at why it is the way it is.

[Shubhanshu san]

From what I have seen, blue has an upper hand over orange and green when it comes to matters involving physical intimacy. You see, I come from a very bluish family with some tinge of orange and also with some aspects of purple passed onto us, because blue often puts some aspects of purple on a pedestal. Blue does repress sexuality but really encourages love. Only when the love blossoms, which means emotional intimacy and even spiritual intimacy increases, does sex happen. Not sure about the west, but those that indulge in sex too much usually do not achieve much in life and develop neurosis, especially when doing it with multiple partners. These people are not powerful unless they are driven by love, faith or some other force and even if they do, they are not even close to one who has mastered sexual energy.

In the early phases of a relationship, rather than building an empire, a couple would prefer settling for less, because they want to live together and they feel they already have everything they need in life, a fake sense of peace has been developed which is nothing more than validation.

Blue cherry picks what serves it's ego from all the stages. 

Sex energy can be used in other things, like art, spirituality, imagination and creativity. Even a thought of sex or physical expression puts you at jeopardy (not really, but it's like you have chosen your fate to find physical expression of this force sooner or later when one thought emerges). Of course blue doesn't know this, but it surely knows that through elder's teachings (A.K.A. Sanskara ). You don't have to cut yourself off of this chore totally unless you seek to change the whole world.
 

This repression is probably caused from shame or what the neighbors will say kind of mentality.

Would you prefer fucking someone in the public or in privacy?
In privacy, right? (I would prefer this.)

Why is that???

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Blue mentality is just an exaggeration of this.

[Forestluv]

36 minutes ago, outlandish said:

That's correct, that's what OP is highlighting. But I think you (and others on this thread) are making the mistake that OP is condoning or defending it. I believe @GenuinePerspectiveXC is just observing this nature, and accurately so IMO. It's not a judgement on stage Blue sexual orientation, just looking at why it is the way it is.

I’m not pointing to condoning or defending Blue-level behavior. I’m not saying Blue-level sexual repression is wrong, lacks value or is unjustified. I’m simply pointing out that it is sexual repression, which the OP doesn’t seem willing to acknowledge. 

[outlandish]

It doesn't look like denial to me, just looks like not using the word "repression" to describe the aspects of Blue sexuality that you probably both agree on. What looks like repression from above Blue, looks like sensibility and order from inside Blue because they are stepping out of the messy Red. So I think it's fair to lose the word repression when trying to understand it from Blue perspective, since repression is a descriptor for how it looks from Orange, Green etc.

Potayto, Potahto though really, innit @Forestluv?

I'll stand back though now, and stop trying to speak on @GenuinePerspectiveXC's behalf 

[Forestluv]

49 minutes ago, outlandish said:

What looks like repression from above Blue, looks like sensibility and order from inside Blue because they are stepping out of the messy Red. So I think it's fair to lose the word repression when trying to understand it from Blue perspective, since repression is a descriptor for how it looks from Orange, Green etc.

I would question if even that is true. Blue can believe pornography, sex out of wedlock and homosexuality are immoral and those desires should be repressed. I grew up in a fundamental Catholic environment and people around me would straight-up say to ‘repress’ certain sexual desires - either ‘repress’ it internally by the personal or through external force. I think it gets into semantics on whether we should use the word “repression” or terms like “push away”, “inhibit” or “restrain”. From what I’ve observed, there can be awareness and intentionality of sexual repression/inhibition/restraint from a Blue perspective. 

In addition to repression/inhibition/restraint, there can also be the perspective of ‘purifying’ those immoral sexual desires away through prayer, confession and conversion. As well, there can be a perspective of rationalizing the imposition of moral sexual behavior for the good of society. From my observations, these attitudes are not mutually exclusive. 

If I asked people in the fundamental Catholic community I was raised if immoral sexual desires should be repressed, I imaginemost would say “yes” because it is better to repress an immoral sexual desire than to act on it. It would be like me asking them if a husband should repress a desire to beat his children. They would say “yes”,. Yet they are not limited to that view. In addition to repressing the immoral desire, they may suggest that the person find Jesus or get some counseling. 

[outlandish]

@Forestluv interesting. I didn't grow up inside a Catholic environment or anything like that, so I don't have that first-hand insight that you do. My parents were kind of hippies who themselves grew up inside Blue, and then I've lived immersed in a pretty Catholic-heavy society, but always as an outsider to it. That makes sense what you're saying. 

I've had a couple of Catholic girlfriends in the past, and it seems to be true what they say that all that repression and guilt doesn't work too well  Not anymore anyways.

[GenuinePerspectiveXC]

@Forestluv

31 minutes ago, Forestluv said:

I would question if even that is true. Blue can believe pornography, sex out of wedlock and homosexuality are immoral and those desires should be repressed. I grew up in a fundamental Catholic environment and people around me would straight-up say to ‘repress’ certain sexual desires - either ‘repress’ it internally by the personal or through external force. I think it gets into semantics on whether we should use the word “repression” or terms like “push away”, “inhibit” or “restrain”. From what I’ve observed, there can be awareness and intentionality of sexual repression/inhibition/restraint from a Blue perspective. 

In addition to repression/inhibition/restraint, there can also be the perspective of ‘purifying’ those immoral sexual desires away through prayer, confession and conversion. As well, there can be a perspective of rationalizing the imposition of moral sexual behavior for the good of society. From my observations, these attitudes are not mutually exclusive. 

If I asked people in the fundamental Catholic community I was raised if immoral sexual desires should be repressed, I’m confident most would say “yes” because it is better to repress an immoral sexual desire than to act on it. It would be like me asking them if someone had a desire to kill someone if that desire should be repressed. They would say “yes”,. Yet they are not limited to that view. In addition to repressing the immoral desire, they may suggest that the person be locked up, find Jesus or get some counseling. 

You'd find it less sexually repressive than being a serf, slave, or getting castrated in a total red non-system. 

We have a lot of trouble relating to this though because those ones didn't end up becoming our ancestors.

Edited August 11, 2020 by GenuinePerspectiveXC

[Forestluv]

@outlandish I think you make a good point about judging from above vs. understanding a perspective from within that perspective. It’s hard for me to get back immersed into the Blue mindsets that were conditioned into me.