I Consciousness should know all minds simultaneously

[allislove]

59 minutes ago, Halm said:

So, if I am infinite consciousness/All knowing, how come I'm not aware of your thoughts? I'm only aware of thoughts appearing “here” while i'm sure there are other minds with other thoughts I have no access to.

How come you can't travel in time to the past? How come you can't teleport to another point of Earth? 
I would say "you can't until you can"  Self-realization may pop up, the realization that time and space are an illusion, and any separation at all. The illusion is in place in order to have fun, enjoy yourself.

[Gesundheit]

2 minutes ago, allislove said:

The illusion is in place in order to have fun, enjoy yourself.

Problem is that statements so irritating like this prevent me from having the fun. They're just so annoying.

[Halm]

@Gesundheit

4 minutes ago, Gesundheit said:

You are conscious of all minds simultaneously but it takes different forms.

The reality is that "your" mind creates thoughts, and you assume that they are something else other than thoughts, as if they have some reality to them.

You want to know what my experience is like, but what you're reading right now is exactly what I am. No more, no less. The rest is you imagining things about these words, that there is someone there sitting somewhere typing them etc...

At least that's one way to look at it.

@Gesundheit
Thanks for trying, though my confusion persists.

When I'm sitting face to face with a friend and talking I know there is an experience present that i'm not aware of.

Let's say my friend says; what am I thinking of right now? If we are the same awareness why are not both “his” thoughts and “my” thoughts available at once?

[Halm]

9 minutes ago, allislove said:

How come you can't travel in time to the past? How come you can't teleport to another point of Earth? 
I would say "you can't until you can"  Self-realization may pop up, the realization that time and space are an illusion, and any separation at all. The illusion is in place in order to have fun, enjoy yourself.

@allislove

I can't travel in time because this mind/dream has its laws (mind laws) + there is no time to travel in anyways, this sidetracked and this in my point of view has nothing to do with the self aware being I'm trying to point at.

This mind with limits and laws are known by an infinite consciousness, and I am that. Then if this is the case why am i not aware of all thoughts in the universe simultaneously?

[Gesundheit]

Just now, Halm said:

@Gesundheit

@Gesundheit
When I'm sitting face to face with a friend and talking I know there is an experience present that i'm not aware of.

You imagine.

2 minutes ago, Halm said:

@Gesundheit

@Gesundheit
Let's say my friend says; what am I thinking of right now? If we are the same awareness why are not both “his” thoughts and “my” thoughts available at once?

Because you're reading too much into your own perception. That is the illusion and the entire trick. You perceive a human body, which is creating sounds and voices, which are still perception. The end. The rest, you're imagining.

Again, that is one way to look at it.

[Halm]

5 minutes ago, Gesundheit said:

You imagine.

Because you're reading too much into your own perception. That is the illusion and the entire trick. You perceive a human body, which is creating sounds and voices, which are still perception. The end. The rest, you're imagining.

Again, that is one way to look at it.

Thanks for the reply.

This feels like Solipsism for me. I know it's all perception. But there are more perceptions, one of those is "yours". If I'm that consciousness that those perceptions are made out of, why am I aware of only one?

Edited August 9, 2020 by Halm

[Forestluv]

7 hours ago, Rilles said:

So solipsism is it? My direct experience says it is... 

my or My?

[Gesundheit]

7 minutes ago, Halm said:

This feels like Solipsism for me.

Which you are imagining, of course. 

7 minutes ago, Halm said:

But there are more perceptions, one of those is "yours". If I'm that consciousness that those perceptions are made out of, why am I aware of only one?

Still imagining, and will always be imagining. Whatever "my" perception is, you're imagining it right now. Even if you somehow were able to "directly perceive" it, it would still be your imagination.

Imagination is the only game in town.

Edited August 9, 2020 by Gesundheit

[Harikrishnan]

There are no other, nobody is there you are imagining there are,  and you are also imagining they have minds that you can't access. Now stop imagining that and imagine otherway. ?

Everything will be answered when you have an awakening.

Edited August 9, 2020 by Harikrishnan

[allislove]

@Gesundheit if something annoys you this is the sign to let go more. Godspeed.

@Halm exactly, there are self-created laws to maximize fun. The nature of the mind to experience only one thought at any particular moment. Why do you think it's not one of those laws? Any perception/thought is in the realm, as you called it, of this mind/dream.
 

[Harikrishnan]

4 minutes ago, allislove said:

@Gesundheit 

@Halm exactly, there are self-created laws to maximize fun. The nature of the mind to experience only one thought at any particular moment. Why do you think it's not one of those laws?

Only one thought at any particular moment, not necessarily my thought but also opposite person's thought is law.?

Edited August 9, 2020 by Harikrishnan

[diamondpenguin]

How do you read all the other minds then?

[Halm]

@Harikrishnan

20 minutes ago, Harikrishnan said:

There are no other, nobody is there you are imagining there are,  and you are also imagining they have minds that you can't access. Now stop imagining that and imagine otherway. ?

Everything will be answered when you have an awakening.

I agree but then you are imagining that you are telling a guy at a forum that he is only imagining this.

There are now “two” imaginations going on simultaneously. Why am I not aware of both?

[Gesundheit]

14 minutes ago, allislove said:

@Gesundheit if something annoys you this is the sign to let go more. Godspeed.

Letting go is opposite to having fun. Can't do both. Choose either.

[allislove]

@Gesundheit I am sure, the more you let go the better you feel  

[Halm]

32 minutes ago, Gesundheit said:

Which you are imagining, of course. 

Still imagining, and will always be imagining. Whatever "my" perception is, you're imagining it right now. Even if you somehow were able to "directly perceive" it, it would still be your imagination.

Imagination is the only game in town.

@Gesundheit

Yes, I would want to directly perceive it. That would fit into being infinite consciousness.

Then by this reasoning you are imagining me too? You're imagining a guy at a forum and telling him he is imagining stuff?

Then there are two imaginations going on, I'm only directly aware of one. While the infinite consciousness is conscious of both. Only one imagination is a direct present for me.

[Gesundheit]

3 minutes ago, allislove said:

@Gesundheit I am sure, the more you let go the better you feel  

There's no better or worse. That is an illusion of the ego-mind. Wake up, or don't. It don't matter.

[Gesundheit]

7 minutes ago, Halm said:

@Gesundheit

Yes, I would want to directly perceive it. That would fit into being infinite consciousness.

But then how will you be able to distinguish that from your imagination?

7 minutes ago, Halm said:

@Gesundheit
Then by this reasoning you are imagining me too? You're imagining a guy at a forum and telling him he is imagining stuff?

Yep.

7 minutes ago, Halm said:

@Gesundheit
Then there are two imaginations going on, I'm only directly aware of one. While the infinite consciousness is conscious of both. Only one imagination is a direct present for me.

You could think of it that way. And/Or you could recognize that there has always only been one imagination, the present moment.

Edited August 9, 2020 by Gesundheit

[allislove]

@Gesundheit please don't confuse relative and absolute truth

[Osaid]

Being every creature in the universe does not mean you get to tap into other minds at will. If this was possible you would not be yourself anymore. If this was possible it would completely defeat the purpose of being a human being, you wouldn't be human anymore.

If I was God and I wanted to become a dog, I would not allow that dog to look into other minds because that is not what dogs are supposed to do.

If you were able to look into your friend's mind, you and your friend would not exist anymore, it would become a combination of you and your friend.

Lets imagine that you are God and you want to become everyone

In order for you to be everyone you must rid yourself of any memories of being God, because you are not supposed to be God, you are supposed to be a human. This is exactly why you can't access Donald Trump's POV even though you are Donald Trump. If you accessed Donald Trump's POV, you would not be yourself anymore, you would be Donald Trump.