Vaush's Response to the Conservative Media's Response to the body-cam footage

[Milos Uzelac]

So here are some of his main points in the video transcript I outlined, my intent in posting this in this sub-forum is to determine and ask other people on this subforum, generally, who are from the U.S. but broadly anywhere, their thoughts on this: Are Vaush's opinions and conclusions, in light of this new footage, regarding the George Floyd tragedy, a microcosm of the sort of general sentiments and overarching trajectory of generalized thought of the U.S. green stage progressive left? (with their main current demographic base generally being young people from 20 to 30-year-old) What does this say: what might the future relationship with them and the blue or slightly orange conservative people and pundits look like? For example when possible future racial tensions and injustices escalate again, this time not in the context of a pandemic but for example the social and economic consequences of extreme climate change and resources shortages due to the consequences of surpassing the threshold of the limit CO2 in the air and it's a presence there, that would cause an irreversible temperature rise due to current trajectory of the impact the bulk of fossil fuel emissions will have in a decade or two. 

If you don't want to read the transcript his main take, points, and conclusions start at 10:30 in the clip.

Transcript:

Vaush: "So here are the reasons conservative influncers think that George Floyd's death was justified:

a.) George Floyd did not play Simon says that good with the officers orders

 

Vaush-Yes that is true, he didn't not play Simon says that good with the cop. Floyd was very confused and very agitated during the arrest and in the presence of the police , he was on fentanyl at that time, but being agitated and confused does not sign your death warrant. 

 

Vaush - Most of the stuff conservatives say justified his death in the light of the surfacing of this footage, happened completely independent of the subsequent event of the cop's knee being on his neck. 

 

Vaush's view- This the main thing, at no point (in the light of the resurfaced body cam footage) did George Floyd attack or pose any threat to any of the police officers involved and none of the context provided in the new body cam footage, provides any justification for the use of the knee on the back of the neck in the main public outcry video. 

Vaush- In the body cam footage it is shown that George Floyd claimed he couldn't not breath before a knee was put on his neck - which conservatives spin in such way to create a narrative that this bit of his behaviour justifies the force that was applied to him that lead to his death. In the same way if you complain that you have stomach pain and then you get shot in the gut and scream that your stomach hurts again it invalidates your first complaint of having a stomach pain. 

 

Now I have seen conservatives of every flavour, essentially takes this opportunity of the released police body camera footage, revealing the totality of the course of events during the arrest of George Floyd and his subsequent murder by the officer who arrested him, being available on major media platforms, to essentialy say, three things:

a.) That the media intentionally didn't want to wait for the full details of the events leading to George Floyd's arrest to emerge (e.i. with the police body cam footage) and that they wanted frame their news coverage of the arrest George Floyd and death of George Floyd, in way such as to generate public outcry over it and cause dissent and hatred against the police. That they therefore intetionally lied and wanted to manipulate the public with the coverage of the George Floyd's arrest and death as an agenda against conservatives, their policies and the police. 

Vaush: Which is a non-sensical claim because the media didn't have the access to the body-cam footage right away. So I don't know how it's existence has anything to do with their coverage. 

b.) That BLM riots and protests were predicted on a lie. That idea that George Floyd didn't deserve to die, so they are implicitly saying that he did. 

c.) That George Floyd deserved to die. 

And this comes also in a variety of flavours:

"They say because he couldn't breathe before that his later claim: I can't breathe! is irrelevant." 

"They say later he died as result of having fentanyl in his system".

-In spite of the fact that the autopsy indicated that he didn't die as a result of having fentanyl in his system, that just factually wrong. He died of being asphyxiated as result of having knee pressed on his neck for more than 9 minutes. 

-but you'll see conservatives spinning it that way and claiming it anyway on their broadcast media networks and platforms. 

"You'll find conservatives say, that essentially because he played Simon says poorly with officers orders, regarding his body posture and limb position at certain times he deserved to die."

 

"The most interesting thing to me, is how a large part of conservatives are visibly twisting their heads, phrasing, rhetoric and focus to come up with connections in the overall available footage: with the process of putting Floyd on the ground, putting a knee on his neck and asphyxiating him with it and Floyd's slight errors and misbehaviour's shown in the body cam footage leading up to it, to create a fake narrative justifying the behaviour of the officer in his way of arresting Floyd and treating him later and implicitly in his murdering of Floyd."

 

Vaush - In the case of all the things that resurfaced up in the Floyd case, I can say that he basically complied on being placed down on the ground, I mean he was wiggly and agitated, and appeared to have a short anxiety attack during the first minutes and a lot earlier before he was placed on the ground, but he was not fighting, nothing that all the footage shows warranted the exercertion of force was that then used to bring him to the point of death. 

Vaush - So in essence all this new body cam footage shows, is introduce the police officer, who has been charged with murder, drew a firearm on George Floyd before there was any reason to do so. 

Vaush's conclusion and view on the overall case and policing in America :

"That's the only relevant new information, because I live in the United States of goddamn America, I do not get to live in the country where a cop murders me for not playing Simon says that well with him, for being agitated, for being discombobulated or f it for being on drugs or for being a pornstar or for whatever crimes I may have committed in the past. 

In this country cops get to kill me for one reason and one reason only, and that is if they think that I am about to kill them and even then they have to work to justify that. And George Floyd did not at any point do that, so his death at the hands of the police officer is unjustifiable."

 

 

Vaush's final conclusion and overall view on what the release of the poloce body-cam footage in the George Floyd case and the subsequent response to it proves:

"The only real lessons with release of this new footage we can learn from are the following ones:

a) The cop who murdered him is bad 

b) Conservatives love black corpses, Tim Pool, Ben Shapiro, Anthony Paul Logan love black corpses

-That is the only explanation I can think of is that these people revel in the death of black Americans

 

"This why I had always said that the removal of conservative opinion from our society is a war of self-defense, for the people in this country who are staring down the barrels of their guns. It is a war that they must win so we can all live together in an equal society and it is war our enemy must lose because they will all see you dead. Its that simple, there's no two ways around it." 

"This video, this new video didn't not at any point provide anything close to a point of approximating a real justification for the killing of Floyd and yet they are treating it as though it had." 

"They gaslight you about it, just as they did the first time when this event broke out in the mainstream." 

"If your watching this and you are black they want you dead, if you're watching this and you are trans they want you dead, if your watching this and your gay, bi or pan they want you dead. If your watching this and you are woman the only reasons they don't want you dead is because they want to use your body to produce children and they find you attractive, so you are a nice object to look at".

-Legitimate emerging green stage consciousness world-view and advocacy? Thoughts?

PS Sorry for grammar errors in the transcript part of the post, this part of a YT transcript, I will correct what I see right away or a soon as possible if I don't see it.

PSS Criticisms that my views and thoughts are a bit apocalypticist regarding the unfolding of future events are legitimate since I admit I do have them when thinking about global impact events during the day and not having full knowledge on the state of the system in which an event took place.

 

Edited August 8, 2020 by Milos Uzelac

[Opo]

@Milos Uzelac George didn't deserve to die and the cop should be charged for murder. But Vaush is either lying or his bias won't allow him to see that George's arm was out of sight and its rly ruining his message. 

Edited August 9, 2020 by Opo

[dyslexicCnut]

1 hour ago, Opo said:

@Milos Uzelac George didn't deserve to die and the cop should be charged for murder. But Vaush is either lying or his bias won't allow him to see that George pulled his hand out of sight and its rly ruining his message. 

"Floyd didn't play Simon Says very well so the culpability of his murder is lessened." This is quite literally what you're saying.

Also lol @ the edit from "George pulled his hand out of sight" to "George's arm was out of sight" after being proven wrong in my thread. 

[Opo]

6 minutes ago, dyslexicCnut said:

"Floyd didn't play Simon Says very well so the culpability of his murder is lessened." This is quite literally what you're saying.

Also lol @ the edit from "George pulled his hand out of sight" to "George's arm was out of sight" after being proven wrong in my thread. 

Ugh watched it again and he did move his hand out of sight. This is like arguing with a child it's pointless. Good luck to you.