Is Ben Shapiro a blue sociopath.

[Eren Eeager]

Ben defends right wing conservative bullshit for sure, but he has a very weird personality. He talks very very fast and he is always right in his own eyes even when he is wrong, lol. And he is like he doesn't have any sense of guilt or self-reflection. So is Ben a sociopath? 

Edited August 5, 2020 by Eren Eeager

[Leo Gura]

I don't think so.

He's just a typical conservative American Jewish white boy who was indoctrinated from birth to be an obedient boy.

He's not a sociopath, he's an ideologue/fundamentalist.

[Rilles]

No, Stefan Molyneux could be though... He just sucks you in with his charming voice... Its frightening. 

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Rilles said:

No, Stefan Molyneux could be though... He just sucks you in with his charming voice... Its frightening. 

He's not a sociopath either. He's actually a compassionate guy if you listen to him carefully.

You have to be real careful with this "sociopath" label. The ego-mind uses it to demonize and dismiss the difference in perspective of those you disagree with.

Just because Molyneux holds some right-wing ideological ideas does not make him a sociopath.

Consider the following serious: both Shapiro and Molynuex are loving guys. But they hold a conservative ideology given their upbringing. Their love and compassion takes a conservative form.

[Rilles]

13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

He's not a sociopath either. He's actually a compassionate guy if you listen to him carefully.

You have to be real careful with this "sociopath" label. The ego-mind uses it to demonize and dismiss the difference in perspective of those you disagree with.

Just because Molyneux holds some right-wing ideological ideas does not make him a sociopath.

Consider the following serious: both Shapiro and Molynuex are loving guys. But they hold a conservative ideology given their upbringing. Their love and compassion takes a conservative form.

But hes soooo charming... 

I listened to him for years... Before I realized what he was doing... I still like some of his ideas... But hes notorious for lying and taking things out of context... I guess thats the nature of ego though, I aint no angel. 

Edited August 5, 2020 by Rilles

[Loving Radiance]

@Rilles  maybe he being ENTP? Ne hero is very fast

[Leo Gura]

22 minutes ago, Rilles said:

But hes notorious for lying and taking things out of context

Technically he's not lying. He's just unconscious and locked into his paradigm.

You are not appreciating the depth of this problem. There is no truth here. There is only a relative difference of perspective. Your perspective is not truer than his.

I challenge you to face the relativity of this directly, rather than demonizing the other perspective.

[Rilles]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Technically he's not lying. He's just unconscious and locked into his paradigm.

You are not appreciating the depth of this problem. There is no truth here. There is only a relative difference of perspective. Your perspective is not truer than his.

Thats what I said, nature of ego, I aint no angel. 

[Leo Gura]

@Rilles You demonized him as a liar and sociopath.

Now who's lying

[Rilles]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Rilles You demonized him as a liar and sociopath.

Now who's lying

https://imgur.com/r/EditingAndLayout/jvsIqgz

Edited August 5, 2020 by Rilles

[Rilles]

2 minutes ago, datamonster said:

He might be a little blue, but definitely also orange, maybe he even has a little green in him, too.

Try not to put such a label on him because he might occasionally have an interesting point or insight and that will get lost on you if you think he's a sociopath.

Are you suggesting sociopaths cant have valid things to say?  

[andyjohnsonman]

55 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Technically he's not lying. He's just unconscious and locked into his paradigm.

You are not appreciating the depth of this problem. There is no truth here. There is only a relative difference of perspective. Your perspective is not truer than his.

I challenge you to face the relativity of this directly, rather than demonizing the other perspective.

Does that mean that higher spiral dynamics stages aren't closer to truth then? They are just more evolved and conscious? If a green looks at a blue Ben Shapiro they can't say their stage is truer its just more conscious?

[whatishappeningtome]

I genuinely think Ben Shapiro is lightly autistic, but not a sociopath. He is like a grown up version of the weird nerds in middle school.

[Consept]

Theres a definite lack of compassion from Ben Shapiro, although that doesnt mean he cant have valid points worth exploring. Im not sure i would go as far sociopath but im not a psychologist

[Merkabah]

There is a significant amount of demagoguery and intellectual dishonesty in Ben Shapiro's game. To say that he is JUST another victim of indoctrination and environmental conditioning is pretty naive. Look at his content closely and you will see that he is playing the game of alt-right politics just as well and just as dirty as any other bullshit artist out there..........!  

Edited August 5, 2020 by Merkabah

[Dragon Liege]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

He's not a sociopath either. He's actually a compassionate guy if you listen to him carefully.

You have to be real careful with this "sociopath" label. The ego-mind uses it to demonize and dismiss the difference in perspective of those you disagree with.

Just because Molyneux holds some right-wing ideological ideas does not make him a sociopath.

Consider the following serious: both Shapiro and Molynuex are loving guys. But they hold a conservative ideology given their upbringing. Their love and compassion takes a conservative form.

It's why I don't really use the term. I've seen it almost always to demonize everyone.

[Dragon Liege]

Just now, Dragon Liege said:

It's why I don't really use the term. I've seen it almost always to demonize everyone.

I meant every time. I should have read my post.

[Carl-Richard]

Ben? I don't think so. Anyways, here is a stage orange-green sociopath (kinda):

 

Edited August 5, 2020 by Carl-Richard

[Roy]

Ben isn't a malicious sociopath. He just lacks the imagination to view things from the perspective of someone struggling. He has the silly Libertarian view that everything can be chalked up to personal choice regardless of the environment one is in.

It just comes from a place of obvious bias because he's probably never had to overcome any significant obstacles in his life, therefore he never developed the ability to truly identify or understand them.

He has traveled a lot for his work but it has been from a nested and privileged position. I highly doubt he's actually spent time in a truly impoverished area or talked directly and personally to really unfortunate people without a camera tainting the conversation.

He just lacks life experience and it shows.

Edited August 5, 2020 by Roy

[lmfao]

Nope. Sociopath is a medical term so don't throw around.

There are clips of Ben when he's relaxed and not really arguing. He's a pretty normal guy.