Questions about Stage Red video

[GroovyGuru]

First of all, the video was amazing and learned so much from it, so thanks Leo. I really love Spiral Dynamics and was especially looking forward to a video on Red because for whatever reason it seems to me one of the more fascinating stages. I have 2 questions that I wrote down while watching the video that I would like some clarification on:

1. How does one operating from a higher stage on the spiral DEAL with stage red individuals

ex.) In my friend group, I have one individual who is deeply red. He embodies tons of the values and characteristics Leo outlined in the video (being a bully, fragile ego, gets joy from humiliating others, unhealthy version of masculinity etc). I definitely consider myself in the Green area, and of course, he can get VERY triggered by this. He often deems my personality and political views as weak and feminine. I am the only one in this friend group of maybe 7 who is green. The others are Red and Orange, so as you can imagine, I often can get picked on and deeply misunderstood because of this. How does one deal with these people? Would it be more healthy to just look for new friends? I would definitely consider my friend who is stage red and actual friend, but it's kind of a weird relationship with a lot of obvious tension.

2. Several times in the video Leo claims that "Red is not bad". I understand this, and his emphasis in this video on each stage being perfectly appropriate depending on the environment in which one operates was incredibly helpful and deepened my understanding of this model. However, what if, like in the case of Trump, an individual is deeply Red in an environment and society that is far beyond that stage (USA seems almost equally Blue, Orange, and Green). Do we have the room to cast judgement in that case? And, how is it that someone so deeply Red can even emerge in a society that has by and large evolved from that stage?

Thank you for reading...

P.S. I have another question about stage Green/Yellow video games, which Leo also mentioned, that I will post elsewhere.

[lmfao]

1 hour ago, GroovyGuru said:

How does one deal with these people? Would it be more healthy to just look for new friends?

You've answered your question a little for yourself already. It all comes down to what you want man. 

Relationships are complicated. It might not be that you cut contact from these people completely, just that you choose to change the dynamics to what you want.
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Law of attraction in regards to your own consciousness growing depends upon you utilising whatever tools you have to their fullest. Alright so lets make an example of two people based on this situation. So you are surrounded by stage red, but it is within your means to get space and distance from it. But if you don't use those means you have to get out of those situations and relationships, you didn't want to grow badly enough. Lets take another person, who is surrounded by stage red but cannot overcome this fact. But this person does everything in their power to empower themselves with what means they have.

This second person will grow more since their orientation is correct

Edited August 2, 2020 by lmfao

[Leo Gura]

1) Upgrade your friends

2) Kick Trump out

Sometimes the only way to deal with toxic Red is to give them a taste of their own medicine or put them in prison. Which is really where Trump belongs.

[kagaria]

Interesting perspective.