Masculine and Feminine Structure Thread

[John Iverson]

I discovered this kind of content on youtube and i think this is Gold for a man and woman in the society who wants understand opposite sex in terms of taboo and other stuffs you want to understand in a context of sexuality, gender differences, psychology and structure.

.. I want this guy to be known, because he is kind a unique and in touch with girls by doing interviews, please support this guy

girls also could share contents here

let's get healthy discussions here okay? 

share more alot of content here about masculine and feminine that you think it is gold...

 

[John Iverson]

 

[Preety_India]

 

He says a lot of wrong things.  He reads women wrong. 

I have seen his content before. 

He assumes and speculates too much using a small sample of women. 

Doesn't look like he has any experience. 

A lot of people on this forum use this guy's content who is clearly misleading all men. 

He feeds too much into confirmation bias. 

The only reliable person who you should follow in such matters like masculinity and female nature is  LEO

 

 

[John Iverson]

1 hour ago, Preety_India said:

 

He says a lot of wrong things.  He reads women wrong. 

I have seen his content before. 

He assumes and speculates too much using a small sample of women. 

Doesn't look like he has any experience. 

A lot of people on this forum use this guy's content who is clearly misleading all men. 

He feeds too much into confirmation bias. 

The only reliable person who you should follow in such matters like masculinity and female nature is  LEO

 

 

Which do you think might be wrong and misleading?

[Preety_India]

@John Iverson all his videos are misleading. He has a cathartic personality and he uses his experiences to twist their meaning and fit them into a narrative that will help to overcompensate his emotions. 

 

[John Iverson]

12 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

@John Iverson all his videos are misleading. He has a cathartic personality and he uses his experiences to twist their meaning and fit them into a narrative that will help to overcompensate his emotions. 

 

How come all of his videos are misleading? For example the first video i pasted, what are your thoughts about it?

[Preety_India]

@John Iverson  like I said, even about the first video he blows things out of proportion. He tries to find a fit for his assumptions. He does too much generalizing. 

He has ego issues and he tries to overcompensate his ego with narratives. 

His opinions don't come from a genuine place of curiosity or learning but from a toxic place of narration and compensatory catharsis. 

His opinions, his observations and his data collection is coming from a prejudiced toxic place. 

 

In a nutshell he is a false teacher 

 

 

Edited July 30, 2020 by Preety_India

[Preety_India]

 

Now see its really simple. Everything eventually condenses to direct experience and rest is speculation. 

All you want as a man is pickup and a relationship and better understanding of female nature 

Now

For pickup, you simply follow Leo's advice, you don't need any YouTube channel or course unless you are eager to pay for it and it's easily available in your area. 

For pickup without any course, you simply follow Leo's advice that he is always giving.  GO OUT, SOCIALIZE, APPROACH.  This is a simple advice that Leo always gives and which a lot of men don't follow and waste their time discussing rather than actually doing things.

For understanding female nature, all you need is a female in your life. Once you master approaching women in real life and spend too much time with too many women, you gradually learn a lot about female nature purely through direct experience. You won't need any false YouTube guru who probably has never dated and is simply invested in fooling men and making money, because stuff like this attracts men so much, they are ready to pay lots of money for it, you won't need that or any course or book or coach. 

The thing is no matter how much you read on a forum and discuss or watch or listen to these things, nothing comes closer to direct experience, you're simply wasting your time discussing too much about women without having a woman.. It is pointless. A pure waste of time. 

What you need is to get out of the box and test the waters yourself. Go out, socialize, improve your skills in the direct process, move to a city where you can meet many people, once you are confident you definitely get at least one woman after many trials and then you can use that opportunity to build a relationship and even if it fails, your experience will teach you how to avoid the same mistakes in future relationships and how to be better at understanding the woman you would be with. 

The bottom line is that relationships can't be created through courses, books and programs. You have to actually do it and be it. You have to have a relationship to know what a relationship feels and looks like and understand and experience its ups and downs. 

You cannot understand war or the challenges of a war by simply reading or hearing/discussing about it. You will need to actually experience a war to really know what its like be in a war situation. 

Relationships are hard work. It's not sitting and eating corn. Relationships are both good and bad, a blessing as well as a curse. Relationships can make or break. They are not fairy tales. To create relationships you need tons of willpower and bravery and Openness. You can't start relationships with hesitation or avoidance or fear. Then you won't fall in love.. You need boldness to fall in love and completely trust another person 

Also relationships are a lot of hard work and challenge. No bed of roses. I have been through multiple relationships. It's a lot of work to be there for someone.. It's like a responsibility or a job. Most people just shy away from it. They only want the rosy part of a relationship, but not the work part. 

So yes, you cannot be sitting at home on a couch or computer and expecting a relationship to magically happen

You will need to work very hard for it happen in your life. 

And even if you work hard, you will go through multiple failures and dejections and disappointments that will make you upset or hurt. But this is a test.. It will test your resilience. So it's not necessary that your first relationship will magically turn out to be successful. 

Maybe your third or fourth relationship will become successful after a lot of trial and error if you fortunately find a compatible person. 

Most people in relationships struggle a lot. Very few lucky people have a successful first relationship. For most people their second or next relationship turns out to be better because by then they learn how to spot a compatible person. Till then they keep struggling. 

Getting a partner/woman is just the first step of the ladder. 

The next step is to preserve and maintain the relationship. Its like maintaining a garden. If you don't, the garden will be destroyed. 

So a lot of the men on here who discuss excessively about pickup actually don't have much experience and are not willing to try in real life. It's easy to talk online.. But it takes serious hard work to go there and meet many people and do practical things. 

It's basically what life is. You can't dream life or discuss life. You have to live it. 

 

 

Edited July 30, 2020 by Preety_India

[Gesundheit]

Act natural and don't care for others. They will adjust.

[John Iverson]

1 hour ago, Preety_India said:

 

Now see its really simple. Everything eventually condenses to direct experience and rest is speculation. 

All you want as a man is pickup and a relationship and better understanding of female nature 

Now

For pickup, you simply follow Leo's advice, you don't need any YouTube channel or course unless you are eager to pay for it and it's easily available in your area. 

For pickup without any course, you simply follow Leo's advice that he is always giving.  GO OUT, SOCIALIZE, APPROACH.  This is a simple advice that Leo always gives and which a lot of men don't follow and waste their time discussing rather than actually doing things.

For understanding female nature, all you need is a female in your life. Once you master approaching women in real life and spend too much time with too many women, you gradually learn a lot about female nature purely through direct experience. You won't need any false YouTube guru who probably has never dated and is simply invested in fooling men and making money, because stuff like this attracts men so much, they are ready to pay lots of money for it, you won't need that or any course or book or coach. 

The thing is no matter how much you read on a forum and discuss or watch or listen to these things, nothing comes closer to direct experience, you're simply wasting your time discussing too much about women without having a woman.. It is pointless. A pure waste of time. 

What you need is to get out of the box and test the waters yourself. Go out, socialize, improve your skills in the direct process, move to a city where you can meet many people, once you are confident you definitely get at least one woman after many trials and then you can use that opportunity to build a relationship and even if it fails, your experience will teach you how to avoid the same mistakes in future relationships and how to be better at understanding the woman you would be with. 

The bottom line is that relationships can't be created through courses, books and programs. You have to actually do it and be it. You have to have a relationship to know what a relationship feels and looks like and understand and experience its ups and downs. 

You cannot understand war or the challenges of a war by simply reading or hearing/discussing about it. You will need to actually experience a war to really know what its like be in a war situation. 

Relationships are hard work. It's not sitting and eating corn. Relationships are both good and bad, a blessing as well as a curse. Relationships can make or break. They are not fairy tales. To create relationships you need tons of willpower and bravery and Openness. You can't start relationships with hesitation or avoidance or fear. Then you won't fall in love.. You need boldness to fall in love and completely trust another person 

Also relationships are a lot of hard work and challenge. No bed of roses. I have been through multiple relationships. It's a lot of work to be there for someone.. It's like a responsibility or a job. Most people just shy away from it. They only want the rosy part of a relationship, but not the work part. 

So yes, you cannot be sitting at home on a couch or computer and expecting a relationship to magically happen

You will need to work very hard for it happen in your life. 

And even if you work hard, you will go through multiple failures and dejections and disappointments that will make you upset or hurt. But this is a test.. It will test your resilience. So it's not necessary that your first relationship will magically turn out to be successful. 

Maybe your third or fourth relationship will become successful after a lot of trial and error if you fortunately find a compatible person. 

Most people in relationships struggle a lot. Very few lucky people have a successful first relationship. For most people their second or next relationship turns out to be better because by then they learn how to spot a compatible person. Till then they keep struggling. 

Getting a partner/woman is just the first step of the ladder. 

The next step is to preserve and maintain the relationship. Its like maintaining a garden. If you don't, the garden will be destroyed. 

So a lot of the men on here who discuss excessively about pickup actually don't have much experience and are not willing to try in real life. It's easy to talk online.. But it takes serious hard work to go there and meet many people and do practical things. 

It's basically what life is. You can't dream life or discuss life. You have to live it. 

 

 

I am curious why this is your reaction to his content.. and you called him a guy who have a cathartic personality.. 

some of his video is relatable of what Leo is saying.. and from the book i read that comes from the booklist.. 

I cannot see negative about it 

i think maybe you cannot stomach it because of uhm some i don't know reasons? 

This is kinda advice from you, but i need to see what you are seeing from your perspective,  that made you think that way...

[John Iverson]

2 hours ago, Preety_India said:

He has ego issues and he tries to overcompensate his ego with narratives. 

His opinions don't come from a genuine place of curiosity or learning but from a toxic place of narration and compensatory catharsis. 

His opinions, his observations and his data collection is coming from a prejudiced toxic place. 

If you were given a chance that am going to interview you, then from your own words in contrast of what he is saying, what you can say about women side?? Hmmm?? Tell me the contrast and your side, your truth..