Steve Patterson says Infinity is Imaginary

[Nak Khid]

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRPonozrpZA

Is he correct or is this an evil idea ?

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[Leo Gura]

I only listened for 1 minute, but he sounds like a rational idiot.

[Nak Khid]

yes,  if one considers irrationality genius 

but I'm surprised you would disagree with the idea since everything is imaginary 

Edited July 27, 2020 by Nak Khid

[Space]

@Nak Khid He is incorrect. Actual Infinity can be realised, or rather it can become conscious of itself. He's ignorant to the required radical shift in consciousness necessary in order for Infinity to realise itself.

His definition of actual is also incorrect. He says it means 'totally encapsulated'. This is a false assumption. Again, he's trying to use concepts and language to make his argument. But actual infinity is radically beyond symbols. 

[Gidiot]

@Nak Khidtrans rationality*

Edited July 27, 2020 by Gidiot

[Nak Khid]

51 minutes ago, Space said:

@Nak Khid He is incorrect. Actual Infinity can be realised, or rather it can become conscious of itself. He's ignorant to the required radical shift in consciousness necessary in order for Infinity to realise itself.

Using math, logic, concepts or any symbol to try to understand this is at best cute. 

His definition of actual is also incorrect. He says it means 'totally encapsulated'. This is a false assumption. Again, he's trying to use concepts and language to make his argument. But actual infinity is radically beyond symbols. 

So you don't believe everything is imaginary?      

[Gesundheit]

Everything is nothing. But nothing is imaginary. But the nothing that I'm referring to is not really a thing. It's not a not a thing. Nonothing.

[Space]

3 hours ago, Nak Khid said:

So you don't believe everything is imaginary?      

I'm just refuting his point about 'actual infinity' being a logical contradiction. It isn't. 

 

[Nak Khid]

7 hours ago, Gesundheit said:

Everything is nothing.
 

that doesn't mean anything more than saying up is down or hot is cold 

[Gesundheit]

@Nak Khid unfortunately you (dis)missed the word salad I made for you. What a waste.

[Nak Khid]

15 minutes ago, Gesundheit said:

@Nak Khid unfortunately you (dis)missed the word salad I made for you. What a waste.

when you eat a word salad you're hooked 

Edited July 27, 2020 by Nak Khid

[Gesundheit]

@Nak Khid interesting 

[Gesundheit]

"The narcissist's word salad. ... The pathological narcissist uses word salads intentionally, to manipulate and control by inducing that confused, addled state you know so well. It is a form of gaslighting, the 'go to' method for brainwashing to foster loss of trust in reality and yourself."

https://narcwise.com/2018/05/22/narcissist-word-salad/

[DreamScape]

yeah that makes no sense 

[Nak Khid]

7 hours ago, Space said:

I'm just refuting his point about 'actual infinity' being a logical contradiction. It isn't. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actual_infinity#Opposition_from_the_Intuitionist_school

The mathematical meaning of the term "actual" in actual infinity is synonymous with definite, completed, extended or existential,] but not to be mistaken for physically existing.

The question of whether natural or real numbers form definite sets is therefore independent of the question of whether infinite things exist physically in nature.

Proponents of intuitionism, from Kronecker onwards, reject the claim that there are actually infinite mathematical objects or sets. Consequently, they reconstruct the foundations of mathematics in a way that does not assume the existence of actual infinities. On the other hand, constructive analysis does accept the existence of the completed infinity of the integers.

For intuitionists, infinity is described as potential; terms synonymous with this notion are becoming or constructive.For example, Stephen Kleene describes the notion of a Turing machine tape as "a linear 'tape', (potentially) infinite in both directions."To access memory on the tape, a Turing machine moves a read head along it in finitely many steps: the tape is therefore only "potentially" infinite, since while there is always the ability to take another step, infinity itself is never actually reached.

Mathematicians generally accept actual infinities. Georg Cantor is the most significant mathematician who defended actual infinities, equating the Absolute Infinite with God. He decided that it is possible for natural and real numbers to be definite sets, and that if one rejects the axiom of Euclidean finiteness (that states that actualities, singly and in aggregates, are necessarily finite), then one is not involved in any contradiction.

The philosophical problem of actual infinity concerns whether the notion is coherent and epistemically sound.