Have you fully integrated stage orange if you are not financially indepenent?

[supremeyingyang]

@Rilles

Your replies are hard to read in this style.

I think in a personal monetary Crisis drops that integrated Orange Individual with no real savings to Blue in no time. So while theyare okay in normal mode, they are just one bad turn from getting into problems which will affect their life.

By all means, not every can do it. But Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than now. Go straight into higher stages, but strenghten your base. That's spiral dynamics message to me and thsts quite the opposite of shalllow greed or neurotic need for safety

[supremeyingyang]

@Michael569

see my last post.

no you don't need to leave your 9 to 5, but we here in the forum are not average (i dont try to be cocky, i think thats actually uncontroversial) at least not after 5 to 10 years of practise

[Consept]

For me you can go forward in your development without becoming rich or even financially stable, but to truly transcend Orange you have to integrate and have a respect for its purpose. Youre not tied to it and its not your central motivation but you realise the importance of mastering that level ie the importance of how to make money if you need it. What happens when people move from Orange to Green they can demonise Orange to the extent where anything that makes a profit is bad. So i think if you can lose the attachment to it and take the lessons from it, ultimately it will aid you development