Is Sexual Gratification Through Actualization Bad?

[CuriousCanid]

First time posting here on the forums, and so I'm not really sure if this is the right place to start this thread or not. Hopefully I'm in the right spot, but I digress!

 

Full disclosure; I discovered this site through binge-watching some videos, and there was one I came across that cast it in a negative light. Said negative light got me curious, and curiosity spilled over into actually wanting to try and invest myself in the culture and the like that I've seen in my brief digs. I've only dug through for a small while, but something occurred that made me a little- Well. Not uncomfortable, but perhaps just a little confused?

 

I was watching some of the video content on the site, reading through some articles, and the prospect of self-actualization, while I'm sure is very promising for some people in a different light, to me, has become something of a thrill? 

 

To be a bit more descriptive, I think the idea of a head figure, in this case Leo, (who I must admit I find attractive,) preaching and educating some lost sod like myself a lot more impactful in a certain way as opposed to another. Now I'm a bit unsure if it's okay to pursue this sort of thing in that nature, or if I should try and straighten myself out to continue down the path of self-actualization without any sort of sexual influence. 

 

I don't have a problem with seeing it that way, personally. I enjoy being guided. Taught. Perhaps even encouraged to worship a figurehead in some way, shape, or form. It's a certain level of indulgence that, personally, I feel a lot happier immersing myself in, but I would like some outside opinions on the subject, or, if there are others, to share your perspective on this sort of thing. 

 

(Sorry for the long first post and all. Again, still new!) 

[universe]

Hello CuriousCanid and welcome to the forum!

Self-Actualization is a wonderful thing. You can turn your whole world upside down with it. And if you are the kind of person that has been looking for something their entire life but couldn't find it. Self-Actualization might lead you to it. But it can be a bit tricky from time to time.

As I understand from your text, you use sexuality to motivate yourself on this path. I don't have experience with this but I do know that it is a powerful energy. If you found a way to harness this energy to inspire you to express your full potential, go for it! Everything that has a strong pull like sex, power and fame will often be used as a distraction from actualizing. Handling these forces whithout getting distracted by them requires a strong mind. I'd advice you to stay very alert and watch out for these traps. Let Truth and Love be your guide.

And think for yourself. Don't let others think for you and follow them blindly. Regardless of who they are and what they may seem to be.

 

If you stick with this work long enough, you might discover that you are not a lost sod but maybe Leo himself and even more!

Enjoy ❤️

[CuriousCanid]

Hello! Thank you so much for the reply! I really appreciate it. 

 

And that makes a lot of sense, actually. Thinking about it, I'm actually in agreement that the whole idea of self-actualization through the method I tried before really might be a pitfall. I think it boils down to how long I can maintain that whole ideal of 'this is good for me' in only one aspect, when in reality it might be a better idea to accept it in all aspects. 

 

Truth and Love are probably a lot better methods to reach self-actualization. I think the truth of it all might very well be good! Maybe using my attraction to the whole prospect was good to hook me in, but if it takes abandoning the original guiding forces to become self-actualized, I think that's a price I'm willing to pay. 

 

And this is something I want to be more involved in! The prospect is a lot more fulfilling than I initially thought, and while I'm a bit shy and tend to be more introverted, I think getting involved in the forums and community will be a lot healthier.

 

Though that last bit; discovering that I may be Leo myself or maybe more, what does that mean? I love the premise, and if discovering that, in fact, I am Leo is part of self-actualization, perhaps I'm even more drawn to the prospect on an identity-related level. 

[flowboy]

When I first got sucked into this, I disliked Leo, haha. I remember perceiving his triangular face and manner of speaking as hostile and overly negative, almost devilish, haha. Then I quickly got fascinated. I realised the depth and quality of the information, and I hugely appreciated the way he laid it all out there in an explicit and comprehensive way that no one else seemed to.

And then Leo on screen told me to my face that I don't exist. WHAT?! How can this be?? I was sold. This was more interesting than anything else. Watching these videos that my peers and colleagues didn't seem to really get has been an addiction, an escape, something I took pride in and also something that made me feel really special in times when I needed that. But who cares about all the egoic side effects: what matters is that the content really helped me in a lot of ways, and I'm much happier for it!

I suppose that's my point. Some people swear by worship as their favourite way to absorb enlightenment from their guru. I'm pretty sure Leo is not a fan of this phenomenon, if I'm not misunderstanding. I'd say keep your skepticism and don't forget to test things for yourself. If you're just memorizing stuff you have no direct experience of, you're missing out.

My friend the psychologist told me that it's quite common that a patient can develop a crush on their therapist. And that in fact, makes the therapy more effective with a higher success rate! Do with that what you will

Edited July 22, 2020 by flowboy

[CuriousCanid]

That's part of what sucked me in too. I found myself drawn into it through videos that didn't seem to understand and, really, just wanted to rip into the site, equating it to a 'cult' and all that not-so-kosher stuff. 

 

But I think it's that general stigma of how it rubs people the wrong way that it happened to rub me the /right/ way. The tone, the quality, the depth. It all spoke to me on a level I never really thought possible. It felt personal, and direct, and I suppose that's why it bled into some of my initial excitement. I've never been one for forums or mass interaction, but the variety in content and ability to indulge in topics the likes of which other people would be too closed-minded to allow or experience on another platform has led me to actually find myself checking this site religiously. 

 

I think I would want to respect the wishes of the Master, and if worship and idolization is not a way that Leo would want one to self-actualize, I would accept it as a truth and move towards something that works better. Granted, a big part of me does want to herald Leo as a speaker of logic and reason, and open-mindedness I've never experienced in life, not around me or on the internet. 

 

As for the crush part, I understand whole-heartedly. I don't think it'll interfere with my self-actualization, and if anything my deeper interest with Leo on a parasocial level will omly serve as a boon towards my enlightenment!