From Leo’s blog about homeless perspective, I researched prostitutes perspective

[Rilles]

23 minutes ago, Gesundheit said:

@Rilles 

"Ive only had one gf in my life. I wouldnt say im very fortunate at all, but its my responsibilty if I want to attract someone"

It's not your responsibility. It's your right. But the system forces you to believe that it's your fault because otherwise you won't have sex at all. I understand your position but I don't share it. I do personal development because it's practical, but I also understand that this is not how things should be ideally. I don't confuse practicality for the ideals. Hence, I'm not a slave to the system, at least on the mental level.

"waiting for prostitution to be legal is some weak shit. I dont go around blaming women for it."

Don't put words in my mouth. I was explaining why prostitution exists, not advocating it.

Wouldnt it be easier to just take personal responsibility instead of blaming the system? Btw I dont know what system you mean, dont you mean our culture?

[commie]

This perverse way of invoking slavery reminds me of nothing so much as Fire Eater discourse. :-(

Well, that escalated quickly. On a different note, the interview with that KKK fellow was interesting.

[LaucherJunge]

Prostitution should be legal, human trafficking should not. There is way too much human trafficking going on, this is the real issue about prostitution and porn.
Guess what big figure in politics is fighting human trafficking vehemently. Go on defending your system.

[Rilles]

5 minutes ago, LaucherJunge said:

Prostitution should be legal, human trafficking should not. There is way too much human trafficking going on, this is the real issue about prostitution and porn.
Guess what big figure in politics is fighting human trafficking vehemently. Go on defending your system.

Thats the problem, if we keep it illegal human trafficking and major abuse is the problem, if we make it legal were basically responsible for that abuse, when it happens, probably happens less but its still messy, like I said, needs to be regulated to ridiculous degrees probably. Also the moral issue, should we agree on objectifying women as sex toys for other men? And yes of course, men will be prostitutes too but the majority will be women. 

[LaucherJunge]

4 minutes ago, Rilles said:

Thats the problem, if we keep it illegal human trafficking and major abuse is the problem, if we make it legal were basically responsible for that abuse, when it happens, probably happens less but its still messy, like I said, needs to be regulated to ridiculous degrees probably. Also the moral issue, should we agree on objectifying women as sex toys for other men? And yes of course, men will be prostitutes too but the majority will be women. 

Yes, it needs to be regulated to ridiculous degrees, but some women are really not as innocent as you might think. Here in Germany it's relatively speaking more developed then in most other countries I think and I've looked around on the web and stuff and there really are just student girls simply nymphs who don't even need that money but still do it so that they can buy themselves some expensive shit.
Or there is this sugar daddy and sugar mom shit, where they look for some rich people to basically fund their expensive lifestyle.
But I don't think that should be illegal at all, just a little more regulation would be good with a free market on that stuff like we got here and as for the more regular street hooker type of deals, the regulation should be as you say almost ridiculous and human trafficking should be taken way more seriously. But I don't really see the big problem with the local prostitution here in Germany currently if you look at sex tourism that's a whole other level that would need much more attention.

[Forestluv]

14 minutes ago, Etherial Cat said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grisélidis_Réal

https://mitp-web.mit.edu/books/little-black-book-griselidis-real

It's really too bad I cannot find much more ressources in English about her. 

She was a prostitute and an artist. Totally stage Green. She came from an upper middle class upbringing and thought of prostituion as a mean to heal society by releasing men from their sexual frustration.

Thanks. She looks to have an interesting life story. I wish I could have met her in her prime. I may look into her book. 

[roar]

@LaucherJunge

49 minutes ago, LaucherJunge said:

Guess what big figure in politics is fighting human trafficking vehemently

Evidently, your man got his latest trophy wife through human trafficking...

[roar]

33 minutes ago, LaucherJunge said:

Here in Germany it's relatively speaking more developed then in most other countries I think and I've looked around on the web and stuff and there really are just student girls simply nymphs who don't even need that money but still do it so that they can buy themselves some expensive shit.

Are you not aware that the German scene is one of the worst when it comes to human trafficking?  You really need to widen up your perspective.   You are pretty much clueless to everything you comment on, with your narrowband vision.

[Forestluv]

1 hour ago, LaucherJunge said:

Guess what big figure in politics is fighting human trafficking vehemently.

In the U.S.A., I would say Tulsi Gabbard.

[LaucherJunge]

25 minutes ago, roar said:

Are you not aware that the German scene is one of the worst when it comes to human trafficking?  You really need to widen up your perspective.   You are pretty much clueless to everything you comment on, with your narrowband vision.

One of the smart ones I see.
Read and think before you reply please.
Human trafficking is happening all over the world still obviously, never claimed otherwise, yet prostitution and everything related is as I said relatively speaking more developed in Germany then other countries and if you don't know that you should start informing yourself before you leave such cringy comments. 
Seems like you speak of yourself in your last sentence.

Edited July 18, 2020 by LaucherJunge

[roar]

@LaucherJunge Beanstalk boy, you know nothing.  Move to Murika, korva.   You'd fit in quit right there with your fake knowledge.

You should be aware of the hordes of eastern European teenage slavegirls in Germany, spreading out to the rest of western Europe.  It's the epicenter for the trade.

[LaucherJunge]

4 minutes ago, roar said:

@LaucherJunge Beanstalk boy, you know nothing.  Move to Murika, korva.   You'd fit in quit right there with your fake knowledge.

You should be aware of the hordes of eastern European teenage slavegirls in Germany, spreading out to the rest of western Europe.  It's the epicenter for the trade.

Is it seriously so hard to understand that I'm talking about the system of how prostitution works in Germany???
Do I have to mention yet again like in every single of my posts in this thread that human trafficking is a huge problem all over the world?
How do you get to the conclusion that I don't know about that? 
It's become kinda rare that people actually trigger me but you really managed it, good work mate, that's some growth for me at least.

[roar]

@LaucherJunge

Your communications reeks of misinformation, arrogance and ignorance.  You should know, living in Germany, that it's a hotspot for trafficking.  Claiming otherwise demonstrates your foolishness.  Glad that I managed to trigger you.  It is needed for you to grow and rise above the shit you're entangled with presently.

"Germany is a European source, point of transit, organization and destination country for women, children, and men subjected to trafficking in persons, specifically forced prostitution and forced labor.[1][2]

The Government of Germany complies with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking, but has not implemented European Union recommendations to reduce sexual slavery.[3] The government made substantial progress in addressing forced labor. Available statistics indicate the majority of convicted labor and sex trafficking offenders were not required to serve time in prison, raising concerns that punishments were inadequate to deter traffickers."

 

And your motherland is not too bad either:

Poland is a source and destination country for men and women subjected to trafficking in persons, specifically conditions of forced labor and for women and children in forced prostitution. Men and women from Poland are subjected to conditions of forced labor in Italy and Sweden. Women and children from Poland are trafficked for forced prostitution within Poland and also in Belgium, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain, and Sweden. Women and children from Moldova, Ukraine, Bulgaria, Romania, Belarus, and Russia are trafficked to Poland for forced prostitution. Men and women from Bangladesh, China, and the Philippines are found in conditions of forced labor in Poland. Men and women from Thailand, Nigeria, Iraq, Ukraine, Belarus, Romania, Bulgaria, Moldova, Mongolia, Vietnam, Turkey, Djibouti, and Uganda are found in conditions of forced labor, including forced begging and debt bondage, and also forced prostitution in Poland.[4]

[LaucherJunge]

3 minutes ago, roar said:

Claiming otherwise demonstrates your foolishness.

That's the thing, I don't claim otherwise lmao. Just understand what I'm saying and have been repeating to you over and over again and you might finally get that I'm not claiming otherwise.

[roar]

2 hours ago, LaucherJunge said:

Here in Germany it's relatively speaking more developed then in most other countries I think and I've looked around on the web and stuff and there really are just student girls simply nymphs who don't even need that money but still do it so that they can buy themselves some expensive shit.
Or there is this sugar daddy and sugar mom shit, where they look for some rich people to basically fund their expensive lifestyle.

 

[roar]

@LaucherJunge And I am still awaiting your defense for your main man and the Slovenian victim of human trafficking....  

[Gesundheit]

7 hours ago, Rilles said:

Wouldnt it be easier to just take personal responsibility instead of blaming the system?

Easier for you and me, maybe. But not for those who are less fortunate who are born in poor environments without good upbringing or education. You're thinking about this issue from your own pov not from theirs. You have no idea what their life is like. It's like telling an illiterate to take responsibility for not knowing how to read. Well how about teaching them first?

7 hours ago, Rilles said:

Btw I dont know what system you mean, dont you mean our culture?

The system is the human social hierarchy and it's inclusive to all cultures. Our culture is a variation of that system.

[LaucherJunge]

7 hours ago, roar said:

@LaucherJunge And I am still awaiting your defense for your main man and the Slovenian victim of human trafficking....  

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/how-did-donald-trump-and-melania-trump-meet.html/

Do I have to do everything for you now? Start using your own head and expanding your perspective.

Edited July 19, 2020 by LaucherJunge

[Rilles]

5 hours ago, Gesundheit said:

Easier for you and me, maybe. But not for those who are less fortunate who are born in poor environments without good upbringing or education. You're thinking about this issue from your own pov not from theirs. You have no idea what their life is like. It's like telling an illiterate to take responsibility for not knowing how to read. Well how about teaching them first?

Poor people dont have sex? I dont get your point anymore. Being illiterate is not the same as being bad with women. Yes, we can teach men to be good at dating, but then they would have to let go of their own ideas of what women are attracted to, which is very difficult. 

The system is the human social hierarchy and it's inclusive to all cultures. Our culture is a variation of that system.

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[Rasheed]

6 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Ayo @Rasheed! Congrats on being mentioned in Leo's blog