Why is murder wrong?

[Nak Khid]

  On 7/18/2020 at 10:50 PM, Jacobsrw said:

Right and wrong are arbitrary by the very fact that survival is relative. If you change the desire in which way you wish to live then so too do you change notion of right wrong. Thus, it is arbitrary and not absolute. You are privileging conventional evolution as a means to justify morality. This is a groundless thing to do.

 

Survival is not relative,  without air you will die in minutes 
It's not arbitrary. You can't suddenly decide to stop breathing and  live to the next day. 
Instinct is not relative. It's particular behavior that people are biologically born with. 

Saying "it's relative" does not resolve any philosophical point made, is not a catch all argument 

Edited July 18, 2020 by Nak Khid

[Jacobsrw]

  On 7/18/2020 at 10:59 PM, Nak Khid said:

Survival is not relative,  without air you will die in minutes 
It's not arbitrary. You can't suddenly decide to stop breathing and  live to the next day. 
Instinct is not relative. It's particular behavior that people are biologically born with. 

Saying "it's relative" does not resolve any philosophical point made, is not a catch all argument 

Of course it is, it’s relative to your identity, your make and genetic predispositions. Not all humans survive by the same means.

Just because you would die does not mean it is not relative. To you living is important thus, the idea of dying is problematic. It’s relative simply by the fact that you have believed you are are a human that requires surviving. Survival is not an absolute, it’s one part of the dream.

Survival is important for a finite self but is also relative in the great scheme of reality.

[Carl-Richard]

  On 7/18/2020 at 10:59 PM, Nak Khid said:

Survival is not relative,  without air you will die in minutes 
It's not arbitrary. You can't suddenly decide to stop breathing and  live to the next day. 
Instinct is not relative. It's particular behavior that people are biologically born with. 

Saying "it's relative" does not resolve any philosophical point made, is not a catch all argument 

Life and death, arbitrary and non-arbitrary, instinct and non-instinct; it's all relative. Survival is just a catch-all term for whatever collection of relative constructs you want to perpetuate. Of course survival is relative.

Edited July 19, 2020 by Carl-Richard