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[Parththakkar12]

2 minutes ago, Forestluv said:

Freeing slaves was once the progressive position that conservatives fought against. Is freeing slaves now archaic and barbaric?

Similarly, allowing gay people to get married is a progressive position. In 100 years, progressives are not going to look back and say “Allowing gay people to marry each other is archaic and barbaric!!”. 

Progressivism builds on itself. 

For sure it isn't. The morality can get archaic and barbaric though.

For example, today's conservatives believe very strongly in building the American military, like it's a good thing. This wasn't the case when America was gaining independence. Then, building an army of the United States was the progressive thing to do. The conservative thing was to reserve the autonomy of states and keep them separate. I can imagine all states being scared of losing their autonomy to the whole.

It was a progressive step to build a US army then and it is a progressive step to cut funding from the US army today. But the morality changed.

[Forestluv]

49 minutes ago, Parththakkar12 said:

For example, today's conservatives believe very strongly in building the American military, like it's a good thing. This wasn't the case when America was gaining independence. Then, building an army of the United States was the progressive thing to do. The conservative thing was to reserve the autonomy of states and keep them separate. I can imagine all states being scared of losing their autonomy to the whole.

It was a progressive step to build a US army then and it is a progressive step to cut funding from the US army today. But the morality changed.

During the revolutionary war when America gained independence, building a national army to fight for independence from England could be considered a ‘progressive’ idea. I’m sure there were some conservatives that said “Let’s keep the status quo and be under British rule”. There were probably some benefits of British rule that conservatives liked. Yet once independence was established, no progressives ever went back and said let’s go back to being under control of Britain.

Later, during the 1800s conservatives fought for states rights and wanted their own militias. Yet it’s important to finish the sentence. . . They wanted militaries to protect states rights. . . to own slaves. That is what the military and states rights was over. Owning slaves. Progressives wanted to abolish slavery and knew that a collective military as The Union was needed to do so. Similarly, the south knew they also need a collective military and formed the Confederacy. The progressive vs conservative battle was not over states rights to have their own military - it was over states rights to own slaves. Every progressive today has the same position of progressives then: slavery is bad and the oppression of minorities is bad.

Today, progressives’ issues with the military is U.S. imperialism and the military industrial complex. The U.S. spends an absurd amount of money on the military - about $800 billion a year. As much as the next 10 countries combined. The U.S. military can blow up the world several times over. And there is grotesque corporate profiteering off of building military weapons and engaging in war. People are becoming billionaires off of it. These are the issues today’s progressives have with the military. These issues are totally different than in the 1800s. And in 100 years, future progressives are unlikely to look back and say “Let’s abolish Medicare for All and go back to war mongering and profiteering”. 

[Epikur]

I am shocked CNN criticizing Cuomo:
 

 

[Epikur]

I am shocked Fox news criticizing Trump.
 

 

[Apparition of Jack]

@Epikur  One thing I've noticed is that Trump has in recent months become a lot more conciliatory to facts that he doesn't like and has lost a lot of his "mojo" when it comes to being a stubborn prick. Look at his answer to whether the cases in the US are bad or not at around 1:05, he admits that what he said about it just being "burning embers" in regards to the level of new infection numbers could also include "flames" such as Florida. In previous years, he would've just outright denied that he even said such a thing in the first place.

Of course, he then goes on another rant about how well the US is doing and how much the rest of the world sucks, so he's not exactly out of automatic-defense mode yet. I do think this crisis and the sheer inhuman pressure being put upon his low level of consciousness if forcing even him to evolve though, even if in just in small ways.

EDIT: Just to add to this, look at how he's lost a lot of his aggressive masculine energy compared to how he used to operate. He's still in dominance mode but he knows, on some level, he doesn't have the same raw confidence he used to. He's looking for acceptance and trying to give cues to other people to affirm what he says more. Honestly, I think this covid situation has really spooked him and made him doubt his own ability to be in control of everything (not that he ever was, just that he believed he was.)

Edited July 20, 2020 by Apparition of Jack

[hoodrow trillson]

7 hours ago, Epikur said:

I am shocked Fox news criticizing Trump.
 

 

lmao I saw this last night.  Talk about a train wreck and some of those questions/statements by the interviewer caught him off guard

I'm not a conspiracy theorist or anything but this is making me wonder what Fox News is up to... it's too.... "real" if you know what I mean.

[Lyubov]

Anyone see the new sexual harassment charges filed against several Fox personalities today?

[Forestluv]

1 hour ago, Lyubov said:

Anyone see the new sexual harassment charges filed against several Fox personalities today?

It doesn’t surprise me at all. It’s been described as a misogynistic culture for years. Ed Henry was recently fired for sexual harassment/assault issues. It’s not easy to get fired at FoxNews for sexual harassment/assault, so it must have been bad.

[Leo Gura]

That's how patriarchy works.

The less conscious people are, the more sexually degenerate they are.

[Parththakkar12]

6 hours ago, Lyubov said:

Anyone see the new sexual harassment charges filed against several Fox personalities today?

It's 2020. Anything can happen. The next thing we know a meteor strike happens somewhere.

[Leo Gura]

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It's 2020. Anything can happen. The next thing we know a meteor strike happens somewhere.

But sexual harassment at FoxNews is like clockwork.

[LaucherJunge]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

That's how patriarchy works.

The less conscious people are, the more sexually degenerate they are.

I don't think it's that simple, it's just one of many areas of life you can get conscious of. I don't think people who don't get into contact with women all their life but do a lot of consciousness work are well developed in that matter but you could also argue that political views about sexuality and sexuality itself are two completely separate areas as well.

[Kailash Bhattarai]

@Leo Gura What else can we expect from these fox news host. Always lying, misleading, and manipulating American audiences. 

[diamondpenguin]

@John Doe you never know. They might be already gay. 

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Kailash Bhattarai said:

@Leo Gura What else can we expect from these fox news host. Always lying, misleading, and manipulating American audiences. 

Skeletons in the closet for sure.

Many of them should be anger prone and verbally and physically abusive.

Child porn would also be likely for some of them. The whole anti-pedophilia thing that right-wingers love is largely a projection.