Aratrok

Why are you not vegan Leo?

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I've tried it multiple times but given my thyroid condition, a vegan diet simply does not give me enough energy to function. I would have to be eating every couple of hours not to feel hungry and cold.

And I do not consume any wheat or grain products. Most vegans eat garbage grains to make up the bulk of their calories.

High carb diets do not make me feel good.


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2 hours ago, Max_V said:

And finally I want to say to you, that morals are entirely groundless. There is nothing upholding them except human minds.

exactly, and that’s why almost no one is upholding them.

who on the world is able to eat every couple of hours anyways O.o sorry for the side kick.

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I can't imagine being a vegan without eating grains. Why though? Oats are very cool. Millet too. I don't feel like they are garbage at all.

Grains = bad stinks of an ideology. There are many different varieties that are for example to wheat as humans are to chimpanzees.

I feel like 50/50% grains/legumes meals + vegetables, nuts, etc. work the best for me. 

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1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

High carb diets do not make me feel good.

What about nuts and avocado ? High fat foods,  last longer than carbs. @Leo Gura

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Would you rather get to live at all and die in the end? 

Or to never have existed at all in the first place? 

Funny how people who've never been around farming, have no idea of how it actually works. Although I assume it's way worse in mass-marketed countries. But here in Iceland, they get to live a happy life where they have lots of freedom to roam around and are treated fairly. 

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3 minutes ago, fridjonk said:

 But here in Iceland, they get to live a happy life where they have lots of freedom to roam around and are treated fairly. 

nonsense and besides the point.

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7 minutes ago, fridjonk said:

@Aratrok Nonsense? I live on a farm. 

@fridjonk of course you do, but that's still besides the point and i already made the mistake of replying to your nonsense, this really isn't about your idea of "humane slaughter" being correct but about Leo.

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5 hours ago, Aratrok said:

What about nuts and avocado ?

Nuts make me nauseous.

Avocados are okay but they are difficult to keep in stock given how quickly they spoil. And half the time they are rotten inside or hard like a brick.


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vegan? eww, i can understand vegetarian but really, it's about understanding how the body functions optimally. Dense food blocks the rising of kundalini energy up the spine. Energy cultivation is an art form, food density and chemistry truly play roles on vibration. Orine therapy and fasting will optimize meditation practices ;)

"living" foods is where it's at...high vibes 

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Just wanted to report that I'm currently following Anthony William's book "Cleanse to Heal" and I feel awesome.

Basically, all I eat is fruits and vegetables and I feel great.

Low fat as well.

I reccomend his book.


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I'm doing the best I can to eat a conscious diet. I don't eat mammals. I still consume dairy, eggs and other animal products as well as fish/seafood. Chicken is my back up protein option if I'm at a restaurant and they have nothing else. I suppose this is pretty good and I feel healthy for the most part with my diet. Could cut down on some junk food though.

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12 hours ago, Scholar said:

Suppose human slave-holder is stage turquoise, would you accept that?

Suppose human rape and torture is stage coral, would you accept that?

I suspect this is actually the case; you just need to mix infinite intelligence with infinite love and you will see the possibility of that reality.
Just as in a video game killing another player is just a fun game; so it's from this kind of perspective where everything morphs into something beautiful.

I'm a yogurtarian/milk kefirian/eggarian for the most part myself in the last months with some small amounts of meat every other week.

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2 hours ago, Lyubov said:

I'm doing the best I can to eat a conscious diet. I don't eat mammals. I still consume dairy, eggs and other animal products as well as fish/seafood. Chicken is my back up protein option if I'm at a restaurant and they have nothing else. I suppose this is pretty good and I feel healthy for the most part with my diet. Could cut down on some junk food though.

yeah it’s difficult sometimes depending to where you are at to get good vegan or veg food. and then also consume it in a healthy way. does def not work without putting effort into it.

for me it’s a good approach to at least try staying vegan, zero animal is high vibrational, alive is the fruit of a plant. the plants are even giving the fruits to you for their survival. of course eating a whole plant like salad is radical, eating sprouts also... self justification starts fast  with an egg here and some butter there. it takes a lot of effort to ask in a restaurant if they have vegan options - that’s what was difficult for me for example in italy - but usually if asked they are really kind and often can make some kind of pasta, although in some countries they would certainly make you feel like they‘d have to go out of their way or say: we have salad - it’s actually like that in germany at the countryside sometimes. (for me the answer would be: „perfect, thank you!“ but of course if that’s all i get for days i‘d have to think about how to eat other stuff) 

some twenty years ago could be vegans were heavily discriminated, i can imagine in some countries that’s still the case. 

i‘m calling myself a vegan because most of the time i am and it’s more understandable in restaurants than to explain that i cannot eat milk products. (and animals, i mean everything with eyes basically)

i believe it’s better to accept being a devil and to backlash with food sometimes as to say it’s impossible and therefore i don’t try to make it possible.

being stuck most of the time means we have not experimented enough or did not find the solution yet - it might mean we don’t want it enough to work.

it‘s a lot of effort to learn how to organize and find suitable recipes and foods to establish a vegan diet.

really there is not much spirituality in eating animals, but we live in a world which makes it easy to believe we can be spiritually high evolved while doing so. its a status quo.

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4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Nuts make me nauseous.

Avocados are okay but they are difficult to keep in stock given how quickly they spoil. And half the time they are rotten inside or hard like a brick.

That probably happens because you overindulge on them. They have a certain cap of how much you can eat in one sitting\in one day. Then they start to become toxic and give you a headache\nausea

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5 hours ago, Adam M said:

Just wanted to report that I'm currently following Anthony William's book "Cleanse to Heal" and I feel awesome.

Basically, all I eat is fruits and vegetables and I feel great.

Low fat as well.

I reccomend his book.

 

Good to say a Medical Medium follower here, he's defo a legend, share your exact diet if you don't mind bro. 

9 hours ago, modmyth said:

Personally, I'm really looking forward to lab-grown meat being easily available. Hopefully very soon.

 

I would URGE you to avoid this GMO shit like the plague, unless you want to slowly get sicker with each meal, this shit is going to be poison, if you're not going to eat animal products please eat wholefoods, not the shitty GMO vegan junk foods out there. This is coming from someone who's been vegan for 5 years now. 

13 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I've tried it multiple times but given my thyroid condition, a vegan diet simply does not give me enough energy to function. I would have to be eating every couple of hours not to feel hungry and cold.

And I do not consume any wheat or grain products. Most vegans eat garbage grains to make up the bulk of their calories.

High carb diets do not make me feel good.

 

Leo, I would strongly advise you to read the Medical Medium's book on Thyroid healing mate, the guy knows what he's talking about. 

At the minimum start drinking 16oz Celery juice every morning on an empty stomach, the shittier it tastes the more toxins you've got that need to be cleared. Also, expect to be 'cleared out' for the first couple of weeks after you drink it. I would recommend drinking it for 6-12 months before evaluating the effects. 

A lot of the negative reviews are either from people who don't like the fact Anthony claims to be a medium, or people who haven't tried it and have preconceived notions on his advice. Of course it won't work for 100% of people, but he's helped heal 1000s, which from what it sounds like, is exactly what you need. 

Look at the reviews and testimonials from actual people! :) 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Medical-Medium-Thyroid-Healing-Hypothyroidism/dp/1401948367/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2Z3HMD9VMAN30&dchild=1&keywords=thyroid+healing+medical+medium&qid=1594203521&s=books&sprefix=thyroid+hea%2Caps%2C390&sr=1-1#customerReviews


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@Leo Gura you don’t eat grains, do you? you also don’t eat soy products, is that right? so you basically skip all the foods in the higher energy sugar and protein supply range.

what about pseudo grains and pulses? chick peas? for example.

plus a combination of bananas and starchy roots in the potato or maca range.

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8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Nuts make me nauseous.

Avocados are okay but they are difficult to keep in stock given how quickly they spoil. And half the time they are rotten inside or hard like a brick.

@Leo Gura all sorts of nuts?

So that means there exists a period during a year where you can skip animal products and use avocados instead.

I am very interested, what does your typical diet look like? What are your main calorie sources? What type of animals do you eat?

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22 hours ago, Aratrok said:

I do not agree that this is everyone's personal choice, just like beating people up isn't.

Whether it is or not in theory..it's definitely everyone's choice in practice. It's obvious. 

 

22 hours ago, Aratrok said:

Those are sentient creatures

Well.. A solipsist might object that they aren't sentient since he is the only sentient being out there. So that doesn't fly. 

 

22 hours ago, Aratrok said:

You can be perfectly healthy on a vegan diet. 

LOL no you can't. I mean ofcourse you won't die or anything if you don't eat meat. But trust me the meat contains essential nutrients that can't be supplemented by any other food.  I tried vegan diet once or twice before and dude.. I felt like a flimsy piece of shit lol.   It definitely affects your energy levels..your hormones.. Your mood in a negative way. 

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 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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