Are there any good reasons to fully awaken?

[Javfly33]

They say Enlightement ends suffering and that's why most people pursuit. But Enlightement also means you die. The present moment stays, you die. So you really don't gain anything. You might trascend suffering but in exchange you completely die, I am starting to think it's not such a great deal.

You have to surrender your will, your desires, your selfishness, your identity, your stories, and your lies, your petty pleasures. And in exchange I'll get absolutely nothing. Just being The Present Moment. 

[Fishy]

Totally worth it. 

[ivankiss]

Asleep or Awake is...a duality.

 

[Forestluv]

5 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

They say Enlightement ends suffering and that's why most people pursuit. But Enlightement also means you die. The present moment stays, you die. So you really don't gain anything. You might trascend suffering but in exchange you completely die, I am starting to think it's not such a great deal.

You have to surrender your will, your desires, your selfishness, your identity, your stories, and your lies, your petty pleasures. And in exchange I'll get absolutely nothing. Just being The Present Moment. 

From the perspective of the ego, it’s not such a great deal. From this perspective there is a price to pay. I’m not saying that it’s better to do either. 

Imagine playing a character in a movie. You are so immersed into the character, that you are actually the character and the “movie” is real life. There is a price to pay in transcending that character. In a sense the character dies. You can try to pretend “I’m the character”. There may be flashes of “I’m the character”, yet it’s never the same. You can never completely fool yourself of being the character, like you once did. There are aspects of being the character that are lost. Yes, forms of suffering are lost. Yet so is a lot of fun being the character. It’s like being at a magic show and knowing how all the magic tricks work. It’s just not the same. Yet, there is also some new stuff that opens up. 

[Javfly33]

5 minutes ago, Serotoninluv said:

 Yes, forms of suffering are lost. Yet so is a lot of fun being the character. It’s like being at a magic show and knowing how all the magic tricks work. It’s just not the same.

@Serotoninluv Exactly, there are a lot of attachments that are part of the beauty of life that also will be gone. That is also heart breaking as fuck.

6 minutes ago, Serotoninluv said:

Yet, there is also some new stuff that opens up. 

So there's something. 

[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

They say Enlightement ends suffering and that's why most people pursuit. But Enlightement also means you die. The present moment stays, you die. So you really don't gain anything. You might trascend suffering but in exchange you completely die, I am starting to think it's not such a great deal.

You have to surrender your will, your desires, your selfishness, your identity, your stories, and your lies, your petty pleasures. And in exchange I'll get absolutely nothing. Just being The Present Moment. 

All the fear of this dream is revealed to be an illusion.    

We are talking about becoming God here - there is nothing bigger!  You will know bliss like never before.

[Globalcollective]

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

@Serotoninluv Exactly, there are a lot of attachments that are part of the beauty of life that also will be gone. That is also heart breaking as fuck.

So there's something. 

Interesting tho it did the opposite for me made life waaaay more enjoyable. Like life x100 but It took me awhile to reajust 

[Someone here]

Thing is you won't get enlightenment unless you surrender enlightenment as well. So you are on the right direction. 

[mandyjw]

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

@Serotoninluv Exactly, there are a lot of attachments that are part of the beauty of life that also will be gone. That is also heart breaking as fuck.

So there's something. 

Ideas of beauty are absolutely not beauty itself. Beauty is not knowing what you're looking at. 

You don't need any reasons to or not to awaken. It's just something that seems to happen sometimes, to no one, like experiencing beauty. You don't have any choice in the matter. 

[Leo Gura]

If you have to ask such silly questions then awakening is not in your future.

[Red-White-Light]

@Javfly33 Might as well do it.

[Forestluv]

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

@Serotoninluv Exactly, there are a lot of attachments that are part of the beauty of life that also will be gone. That is also heart breaking as fuck.

How did you cope when you found out Santa Claus isn’t real?

[Seraphim]

You won't "die". You go from feeling that you exist in the head, bound to the body, to feeling that you are like limitless open space. You still know you are a human (+ the Self) and get to enjoy being that character even more.

[Red-White-Light]

@Serotoninluv Santa was real he was called Papa Noel or St.Nicholas and he would actually deliver presents secretly through the Chimney. One day a bag of gold fell into a poor man’s stocking next to the fireplace and that’s how the tradition came around.

[Nak Khid]

 

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

They say Enlightenment ends suffering and that's why most people pursuit. But Enlightenment also means you die.

You don't die, just the ego, you have answered your own question. End the suffering, shed the false self. There is another self  a "no self" 

short videos 

 

[Nak Khid]

20 minutes ago, Johnny5 said:

Honestly, you do. The only good news is that death is not what it seems. But you won't be able to appreciate that until you're dead.

So you're dead? 

[VeganAwake]

@Javfly33 it's the subtle underlying recognition that the 'I' that feels that it needs to find something, doesn't exist.... and so there's nothing that needs to be found and no one that could find it.

 

[LfcCharlie4]

Peace and happiness maybe? 
 

Im not sure why you think it’s not a good deal? You can still live life however you want and do all the “fun” things in life, whatever that means for you.

It actually makes life better, there’s no resistance to the now, or to life, and you can finally enjoy each spontaneous moment? 
 

Im not sure what you think gets worse, but it allows you to live from love, happiness and understanding and life simply becomes a celebration and a permanent vacation- what’s bad about that? 
 

Im not sure who you’re reading or watching, but check out teachers like Francis Lucille, Rupert Spira and I highly recommend reading 1000 to clear up confusion around awakening. 

[WelcometoReality]

@Javfly33 Nothing actually dies since what you think you are is only what you think you are.

[nistake]

Life does not become empty, bleak and boring after enlightenment. On the contrary. It's the beginning. Living in the now without any resistance, seeing things are they really are, being peaceful. Furthermore, you can still have fun, you can have relationships, you can do whatever you want to do. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.