Solipsism is True!

[Someone here]

16 minutes ago, Dodo said:

Case reopened cause u have the evidence and not giving it to the court. 

I do have the evidence against solipsism but I was just withholding it to test it and see if anyone can just gimme a little push..

As always.. You have to start with a leap of faith.. Just suppose that there is an all powerful god (which is easily provable).  He is all powerful he can do anything.  Can he manifest separate individual awarenesses and experience them simultaneously?  Yes he can.  Can he manifest one awareness at a time(solipsism) ?   Yes he can.  What Guarantee that he will manifest the first possibility?   Because that's what it requires for him to be all powerful. He must do everything that can ever be done or otherwise he cannot be considered all powerful. 

Here you go solipsism debunked.   ?

Edited July 4, 2020 by Someone here

[Someone here]

2 minutes ago, Johnny5 said:

Or so you imagine....

Nope that was it.  That's a perfect argument against solipsism.  The only way to refute it is to claim that this all powerful god doesn't exist.. Which is not so easy because reality must be unlimited because any limit has to be inforced by another limit. 

[Dodo]

9 minutes ago, Someone here said:

I do have the evidence against solipsism but I was just withholding it to test it and see if anyone can just gimme a little push..

As always.. You have to start with a leap of faith.. Just suppose that there is an all powerful god (which is easily provable).  He is all powerful he can do anything.  Can he manifest separate individual awarenesses and experience them simultaneously?  Yes he can.  Can he manifest one awareness at a time(solipsism) ?   Yes he can.  What Guarantee that he will manifest the first possibility?   Because that's what it requires for him to be all powerful. He must do everything that can ever be done or otherwise he cannot be considered all powerful. 

Here you go solipsism debunked.   ?

Hang on, but didn't you just prove solipsism is both true and false? Depending on the iteration that almighty one is doing? Sounds good to me. Nondual enuff

[Someone here]

7 minutes ago, Dodo said:

Hang on, but didn't you just prove solipsism is both true and false? Depending on the iteration that almighty one is doing? Sounds good to me. Nondual enuff

Nope it might be true from one context but it is impossible to be the absolute truth. Because the absolute truth if it's all powerful must actualize all possibilities to actuality  That's how it can be called all powerful.  So when you ask whether reality is subjective or objective?  It is definitely both but it's never one of them exclusively. 

Edited July 4, 2020 by Someone here

[Galyna]

2 minutes ago, Johnny5 said:

No power is even necessary

I do not think Leo has ever referred to any power when speaking about the unlimited potential of the Consciousness. 

[Someone here]

5 minutes ago, Johnny5 said:

Leo is full of shit

No you lol. 

[Dodo]

@Someone here  There is a difference between something being true and something proven to be true. 

I can assume something to be true, without any evidence and be correct. Evidence is not a requirement for something to be true. 

And I know, I can intuit you can say, that you have normal ordinary awareness, just as I do. And this can be absolutely true, even without any evidence. 

 

Example: I can assume, with a reasonable degree of certainty that your body that is typing on the forum has a nose ?.  I have 0 evidence,  yet something tells me I am right. 

Now you have a nose and I said im pretty sure you do. Then you send me a picture and show me evidence that you have a nose. Now I have evidence,  but the statement that you have a nose has the same accuracy before and after the evidence. 

Evidence is just food for the mind. Let it grind for evidence while you and me have conscious awareness of the present moment.

Solipsism is BS CONFIRMED

[Someone here]

5 minutes ago, Dodo said:

Solipsism is BS CONFIRMED

 

[Dodo]

8 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Nope it might be true from one context but it is impossible to be the absolute truth. Because the absolute truth if it's all powerful must actualize all possibilities to actuality  That's how it can be called all powerful.  So when you ask whether reality is subjective or objective?  It is definitely both but it's never one of them exclusively. 

I do not subscribe to this idea about "all possibilities must happen bla bla" simply because it's not my experience.  

If it were the case, then the almighty will be able to create me plus 1 billion dollars in the next 5 seconds. 

Im waiting 5 seconds to confirm I did not, in fact, get 1 billion dollars. The possibikity has failed to manifest. The God of all possibilities has already failed. Dont tell me that it will happen but probably in another iteration,  because if it really was that allpowerful, then it not only could but it Must happen in this iteration,  otherwise it's not possible for it to happen in this iteration,  which makes this God limited.

Its not that, I wouldnt subscribe to such a god.

[Someone here]

@Dodo well you should ask Leo about that.. The notion of all powerful god must be paradoxical and contradictory because he has to be able to do two contradictory things at the same time...not sure how that works out.  But just a little hint that what you consider a contradiction is relative not absolute.  Tada! 

Edited July 4, 2020 by Someone here

[Galyna]

8 minutes ago, Dodo said:

then it not only could but it Must happen in this iteration

we are trying to grasp infinite power with finite mind here, why reality played out this way but not the other? it is just one possibility out of infinite.

[An young being]

2 hours ago, Galyna said:

we are trying to grasp infinite power with finite mind here, why reality played out this way but not the other? it is just one possibility out of infinite.

9 hours ago, Galyna said:

@Member

On 03/07/2020 at 0:11 AM, Nak Khid said:

 

Atleast we can explore as much possibilities as we can and have fun doing it. ( Something very interesting might come out of this which we had never imagined yet with our finite minds and there is no purpose doing it, just the joy in discovering it). 

Edited July 4, 2020 by An young being

[zeroISinfinity]

4 hours ago, Johnny5 said:

Leo is  full of shit 

4 hours ago, Johnny5 said:

Uhuh nice out.

4 hours ago, Johnny5 said:

 

OMG man, he is not full of shit. There are some lessons left. He doesn't lie. 

Bold me, you just don't know to rip his arm off or to shake his hand. 

Real mistery is not nature of Reality it's how the fuck I am still not banned. That's greatest miracle of 'em all. 

 

4 hours ago, Galyna said:

@zeroISinfinity

 

 

 

 

[An young being]

1 minute ago, zeroISinfinity said:

 

Real mistery is not nature of Reality it's how the fuck I am still not banned. That's greatest miracle of 'em all. 

 

10 hours ago, Galyna said:

@Member

On 03/07/2020 at 0:11 AM, Nak Khid said:

 

Is it a misery or mystery or both?

[zeroISinfinity]

@An young being Well misery, mindfucking myself but I also love too. 

Well @cetus for sure doesn't love me at all (such lie and you know it, 10 points, 10  points just to much)

Rest of the mods I don't know. Not fan favorite of red one too. 

Yeah real mistery indeed. 

[Dodo]

6 hours ago, Someone here said:

@Dodo well you should ask Leo about that.. The notion of all powerful god must be paradoxical and contradictory because he has to be able to do two contradictory things at the same time...not sure how that works out.  But just a little hint that what you consider a contradiction is relative not absolute.  Tada! 

I am aware of Leo's theory about this and I do not subscribe to anything that is not my experience / proven by my experience. 

For me it is only a way to explain something unexplainable so that we feel we understand. 

[Galyna]

6 hours ago, An young being said:

Atleast we can explore as much possibilities as we can and have fun doing it.

Oh my, the power of our dreams.....

Let's imagine, have intent and go exploring....

Edited July 4, 2020 by Galyna

[Inliytened1]

10 hours ago, zeroISinfinity said:

 

Real mistery is not nature of Reality it's how the fuck I am still not banned.

 

GM happy 4th!

Well Zero that's a mystery we can solve if you would like? ??

@Someone here  regarding Solipsism what happened to - its just THIS.  You are no closer to reality than looking at your hand.  Why rack your brain over other perspectives happening simultaneously when you are just conceptualizing until the cows come home?  Do you see how you will drive yourself crazy over it?  There are absolute realizations though that can be realized as the Absolute. 

 That reality is infinite is an Absolute that you can become conscious of.   Within that you will realize you are all possibilities.   That reality is an Absolute Relativity or Subjectivity is also an Absolute that you can realize.

And from there you can start spinning a whole bunch of stories.   So if i say that right now one day i will experience being @Someone here that is concept.  Because absolutely speaking this is My dream and you are imaginary.  That's how it is.   I'm talking to myself.  But that's too much for the ego.  The ego needs a sense of duality and a sense of self and others. In fact without duality it would cease to exist as a self.  The very meaning of a self implies separation.  For there to be a self there must be others

So thus it has the sense of others.  It stays at a level of consciousness, a dual level of consciousness where there is separation.  

If you take the POV that there are other perspectives happening simultaneously than when you wake up from this dream, which you can, you would have to say that God has its own perspective - in which God is imagining all perspectives including your little one - on top of that God is simultaneously being them - looking through their eyes.  Every ant, person, cow, even experiencing being a rock right? Maybe it has some level of awareness?   And on top of that it has its own perspective where they are all in its Mind and all of them unite.

Thats one way to see it.  If you wanna get wrapped up.   Or you can see that in fact you are God right now.  This is your dream right now.  And that's it.  All and any separation was always imaginary.  But don't take it on faith of course.  Discover it directly.  I know you won't of course - but for the general reader out there.

[Galyna]

3 hours ago, Dodo said:

I am aware of Leo's theory about this and I do not subscribe to anything that is not my experience / proven by my experience. 

For me it is only a way to explain something unexplainable so that we feel we understand. 

I can relate to this too. Experience is all you have. I feel like I have to run in this direction. 

[zeroISinfinity]

41 minutes ago, Johnny5 said:

What's the one thing Deadpool doesn't do?

I dunno tell me I don't watch movies and even if I do I just don't care to remember.

(yes you did cared to remember, yeah so happy 'bout it)