Solipsism is True!

[Inliytened1]

10 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

 

Non-duality cannot be recognized from the subject/object perspective period.

 

 

Correct.  Subject/object must collapse.  Where we differ is you think there is no collapse.  But there is - relative to you. But not you as what you thought you were.   There is a mystical shift in Consciousness.  Thats how it was for me.    We will run into strange loops here because of Oneness.

[Galyna]

4 minutes ago, Johnny5 said:

What was the question?

I was asking Vegan about nihilism, he has ignored my comment 

5 minutes ago, Johnny5 said:

Speaking for myself, no that's not what I think, and I think you're pretty good at figuring things out.

Oh, thank you so much for you comment, you are too kind .

I am stuck right now. Actually I am at this point in my life that I can not get this puzzle right. Dead end! Which is a great thing. Ralston helps in a way that I am stripping my old beliefs down. Helps a lot to understand the premise of my deceitful thoughts. 

10 minutes ago, Johnny5 said:

We've been playing.

Sounds great! 

[VeganAwake]

7 minutes ago, Mu_ said:

No one left and One are the same thing, perhaps this is a symantics difference or a aspect not understood.....

Is there a chance both of your labels for what Awakening is are not broad enough?

No not at all in any way.

Your definition of Nothing/One is that there's something here that is conscious of what's Happening.

This definition is that it's an illusion and there is nothing here experiencing anything.

Do you see now the major difference in perspectives? ❤

 

Edited July 2, 2020 by VeganAwake

[Galyna]

@Someone here

14 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Wait a minute why are we talking about butts now lol?

ask Dima   @dimitri

He opened the Pandora box. 

_________________________________________

Seriously, no butt topic anymore, otherwise it looks silly.  

Edited July 2, 2020 by Galyna

[VeganAwake]

9 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Correct.  Subject/object must collapse.  Where we differ is you think there is no collapse.  But there is - relative to you. But not you as what you thought you were.   There is a mystical shift in Consciousness.  Thats how it was for me.    We will run into strange loops here because of Oneness.

You will run into all kinds of issues because you do not understand what non-duality is because you haven't  seen through the illusion of the separate self correctly or clearly enough.

[Galyna]

1 minute ago, VeganAwake said:

You will run into all kinds of issues because you do not understand what non-duality is because you haven't  seen through the illusion of the separate self correctly or clearly enough.

This is a very arrogant statement for someone who considers himself as Nothing! 

Just saying 

btw, you have not answered my question....

 

 

[Inliytened1]

5 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

You will run into all kinds of issues because you do not understand what non-duality is because you haven't  seen through the illusion of the separate self correctly or clearly enough.

I didn't say issues.  I said Oneness.  Who sees through the separate self?   

You will say nothing right?  Well that nothing is God!

[VeganAwake]

This is also why you wouldn't want to speak to an actual enlightened individual because they would put you in your place and completely obliterate your entire paradigm which would feel like death to you. ❤

Edited July 2, 2020 by VeganAwake

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

This is also why you wouldn't want to speak to an actual enlightened individual because they would put you in your place and completely obliterate your entire paradigm which would feel like death to you. ❤

Wow man you seem to be becoming undone.  We will leave it here.  

[traveler]

Notice the pull to prove someone wrong, and convert them to "your" truth. This comment right here is an expression of getting lured into that exact same thing. This will be my last comment on the forum, so I'll post it regardless of its inherent hypocrisy.

What is really going on here is conceptual masturbation, non dual wars. These debates goes on constantly and all they do is enhance the feeling that I am somebody here and over there there is somebody that can benefit from what I have. It feeds the experience that there is actually something to get here, and something to give, there isn't. Spiritual ego training camp . This will be a reminder for some, maybe, maybe not, it doesn't matter. There is absolutely nothing wrong with what is going on on this forum, this comment is just a movement of energy. 

Thanks for the entertainment, it has been fun. I won't make a topic declaring my departure lmao!

BYE 

 

[VeganAwake]

4 minutes ago, Galyna said:

This is a very arrogant statement for someone who considers himself as Nothing! 

Just saying 

btw, you have not answered my question....

 

 

What is your question? ❤

[Someone here]

4 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

This is also why you wouldn't want to speak to an actual enlightened individual because they would put you in your place and completely obliterate your entire paradigm which would feel like death to you. ❤

Bro seriously.. I mean... 

[Galyna]

1 minute ago, Johnny5 said:

All you need is a little more confidence in your ability to make your own discoveries.

Spot on, very good observation. 

 

3 minutes ago, Johnny5 said:

I think Vegan is just a little absorbed

I've been reading these statements half a year already , no gains...same old topic. 

4 minutes ago, Johnny5 said:

but the real work is not done by adding new baggage but dropping old baggage. Which you are already doing!

thank you for your support and kind words. 

5 minutes ago, Johnny5 said:

Maybe start taking yourself a bit more serious?

Maybe

[VeganAwake]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Wow man you seem to be becoming undone.  We will leave it here.  

Well that's the point you will become undone brother❤ free

Edited July 2, 2020 by VeganAwake

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, VeganAwake said:

Well that's the point you will become undone brother❤

?❤

[mandyjw]

19 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

Your definition of Nothing/One is that there's something here that is conscious of what's Happening.

This definition is that it's an illusion and there is nothing here experiencing anything.

Do you see now the major difference in perspectives? ❤

Both of those perspectives are true or both are false.  What holds or has a perspective? 

[Galyna]

1 minute ago, VeganAwake said:

Well that's the point you will become undone brother❤

People who's achieved a real realization do not talk like this because the see this Reality as perfect, they do not categorize, they do not judge, they do not create hierarchy.

I am sorry but this is just flood and a word salad. 

 

[VeganAwake]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

?❤

You are already complete... there was never anything that needed to be found or discovered... that's the dream.

You We're perfect whole and complete all along. ❤

[Galyna]

7 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

What is your question?

Question about nihilism and states of consciousness, but let's just leave it here because we do not want to start the same old disk again. 

I do apologize if my comments were harsh.

[Someone here]

11 minutes ago, traveler said:

all they do is enhance the feeling that I am somebody here and over there there is somebody that can benefit from what I have. It feeds the experience that there is actually something to get here, and something to give

What if I told you that's true? 

Edited July 2, 2020 by Someone here