Cities run by the Democratic Party and crime in the US

[Forestluv]

 

1 hour ago, Onemanwolfpac said:

We can agree that the problem is multifaceted but the solution is not more free shit and government.

The “free shit”:argument is shallow and flimsy.

Speaking of free shit. . . what do you think of the 2 trillion dollars of free shit for corporate billionaires in the recent CARES act? All taxpayer money from the government, given to billionaires in secret. Zero oversight, accountability or transparency. 2 trillion of taxpayer money for more free shit for billionaires. Do you have any idea what 2 trillion dollars could do for society? That could revitalize the entire infrastructure in America. It could fix our crumbling bridges, roads and public buildings. It could allow all Americans to get a University degree at no cost for a generation. This is our taxpayer money and should go to our needs. But nooo, the 2T in taxpayer money went to billionaires so they can get some free shit they won’t even use.

Why is it that conservatives only lose their shit over poor people that have no wealth or power? Yet they are totally fine when they get screwed over by welfare for billionaires? Are you really ok about paying for a Billionaire’s third yacht that he won’t even use? A third yacht or private helicopter is pennies to a billionaire. Why aren’t you upset that the government is giving him your taxpayer money so he can jerk off on his new yacht courtesy of you? He is literally laughing at you because you have no idea how he’s screwing you over. 

And oh yea, stay distracted by poor people asking for pennies. That’s how the billionaires want it. They hide in the shadows and point to scary black men getting a few pennies worth of “free shit”, while they screw 90% of Americans hard and get the real free shit. The top shelf of free shit. Wake up.

Btw, have you listened to some Anand Giridharadas yet? 
 

[Onemanwolfpac]

16 hours ago, Serotoninluv said:

Btw, have you listened to some Anand Giridharadas yet? 

 

No. Link? 

Call it flimsy. You aren't making a argument.

You or anybody are more than welcome to learn to code, build a tech startup, making astronomical money, and give it ALL away. AOC and the likes don't. somebody not me do the work. 

Businesses, you mean like the bail out by Obama & admin? 

You mean, Businesses that employ the American people? 

The forum here is extremely biased and watches far too much CNN. Chaz aka socialism 9.0 failed again. Shocker. There's a lot of herd mentality and not thinking for oneself. Literally, parroting the same crap. 

We have a link and stats on crime in democratic states but we will detour rather than acknowledge there is a lot of work to be done. 

If democratic states followed republican states, there would be a lot less crime and far less free shit. 

 

Prediction time. I could be wrong but I think this is going to blow up on the left. The kneeling and simping to blm and the promotions on riots are going to swing moderate voters. 

[Forestluv]

14 minutes ago, Onemanwolfpac said:

No. Link? 

Don’t be lazy and expect to be spoon fed. Take responsibility for your learning. There are many videos of Anand online discussing plutocracy. It’s pretty much the only thing he talks about. 

Be here to learn rather than spread pre-conceived ideology. 

[Bodigger]

On 6/28/2020 at 7:05 AM, Apparition of Jack said:

Big cities are run by Democrats because they have to be in order to balance all the competing social forces. Democrats, as a rule, are more open-minded and compromising than Republicans. Republicans would have a harder time  running a big city without creating more social problems than they fix.

So Republicans are just too stupid, closed minded, and bigoted to run a big city.

In 2002 the Governor appointed a very conservative sheriff to Milwaukee County and told him he would need to run as a Democrat if he was to be elected.  David Clarke was conceivably the best sheriff that Milwaukee County has ever had, and he won election every time because he signed in as a Democrat.  So, it's not that Republicans can't run a big city, they just have a hard time winning elections in big cities due to the amount of Democrats who live in them.

If someone lives in a large city they are represented by around 50 government politicians all the way up to the president of the U.S. and 85-95% of them are Democrats.  I have noticed recently, if there are any problems in a large city, it is due to the Republicans......LOL.

[hoodrow trillson]

1 hour ago, Onemanwolfpac said:

No. Link? 

Call it flimsy. You aren't making a argument.

You or anybody are more than welcome to learn to code, build a tech startup, making astronomical money, and give it ALL away. AOC and the likes don't. somebody not me do the work. 

Businesses, you mean like the bail out by Obama & admin? 

You mean, Businesses that employ the American people? 

The forum here is extremely biased and watches far too much CNN. Chaz aka socialism 9.0 failed again. Shocker. There's a lot of herd mentality and not thinking for oneself. Literally, parroting the same crap. 

We have a link and stats on crime in democratic states but we will detour rather than acknowledge there is a lot of work to be done. 

If democratic states followed republican states, there would be a lot less crime and far less free shit. 

 

Prediction time. I could be wrong but I think this is going to blow up on the left. The kneeling and simping to blm and the promotions on riots are going to swing moderate voters. 

The fact that you used the word "simp" unironically, is enough for me to tell everyone not to even engage with this hot trash of a take.

[Forestluv]

28 minutes ago, Bodigger said:

So Republicans are just too stupid, closed minded, and bigoted to run a big city.

I don’t think that’s the way to frame it. Republicans can do well running a big homogeneous city. Yet not very well with a big diverse city. Blue level politics don’t work well in a big diverse city. 

[Epikur]

6 minutes ago, Serotoninluv said:

I don’t think that’s the way to frame it. Republicans can do well running a big homogeneous city. Yet not very well with a big diverse city. Blue level politics don’t work well in a big diverse city. 

Who can do it? Is it even possible? Like herding cats?

It's not even that diverse in many US cities. Put in some more orthodox  communists, orthodox muslims, tribals and things will get a little bit more challenging.

Edited June 30, 2020 by Epikur

[Forestluv]

9 minutes ago, Epikur said:

It's not even that diverse in many US cities. 

Big U.S. cities are very diverse: New York, Miami, Chicago, Los Angeles etc. Socially and economically diverse. Blue level republicans won’t be able to run them. 

The solution is not to return to the 1960s. That isn’t going to work. That train has left the station. 

[Epikur]

3 minutes ago, Serotoninluv said:

Big U.S. cities are very diverse: New York, Miami, Chicago, Los Angeles etc. Socially and economically diverse. Blue level republicans won’t be able to run them. 

The solution is not to return to the 1960s. That isn’t going to work. That train has left the station. 

Bring in some millions of refugees from Afghanistan and middle east and Africa. Then it gets really "divers"

[Forestluv]

1 hour ago, Epikur said:

Bring in some millions of refugees from Afghanistan and middle east and Africa. Then it gets really "divers"

That would make it even harder for Blue republicans to run. 

[Epikur]

5 minutes ago, Serotoninluv said:

That would make it even harder for Blue republicans to run. 

Who knows there might come a neo conservative revival.

[Forestluv]

4 minutes ago, Epikur said:

Who knows there might come a neo conservative revival.

It’s hard to imagine a new form of conservatism to arise, because conservatism by definition is the past. They want to use old systems that they think worked well. They want to “Make American Great Again”, the way America was in the “Good old days”. . .

There is no imagination about how conservatives would run a city. We already know. They would want to run it based on conservative principles from the past. They don’t want change. 

Yet progressives are all about change and imagining new policies in the future. They want to re-imagine society. Things like M4A and the Green New Deal. This is one reason conservatives have a hard time imagining a new system that integrates a new form of democratic socialism. They think of Stalin Socialism from the 1920s. They are always looking in the rear-view mirror. They can’t imagine what a new socialist-capitalist society would look like. 

[Apparition of Jack]

@Epikur I feel your problem seems to be that you seem more interested in making the world fit your paradigm than accepting the world for the way it is.

Would a stage blue Republican be able to run New York if it was all white? Yes, probably, but the problem is that it isn’t all white, and hasn’t been for centuries. All the black, Chinese, Haitian, Lebanese, Puerto Rican, etc. New Yorkers are simply too embedded into NY society for anything other than multiculturalism to be feasible.

 

And this is a growing reality across the whole world. Cheap travel, population growth, intertwined economies and migration have all made the world far more multi-cultural and multi-racial than its ever been. You can walk down a street in Toronto and pass a Sikh community hall, an anarchist library, a Chinese temple and a Christian church all within a few blocks of each other. The idea of mono-cultural nation-states is a dying idea that has to be abandoned if we’re going to meet our collective needs. And the point is this trend is inevitable. Non-duality makes it so. There’s no going back from this reality, so it’s either we adapt or die.

Edited June 30, 2020 by Apparition of Jack

[Epikur]

1 hour ago, Serotoninluv said:

It’s hard to imagine a new form of conservatism to arise, because conservatism by definition is the past. They want to use old systems that they think worked well. They want to “Make American Great Again”, the way America was in the “Good old days”. . .

There is no imagination about how conservatives would run a city. We already know. They would want to run it based on conservative principles from the past. They don’t want change. 

Yet progressives are all about change and imagining new policies in the future. They want to re-imagine society. Things like M4A and the Green New Deal. This is one reason conservatives have a hard time imagining a new system that integrates a new form of democratic socialism. They think of Stalin Socialism from the 1920s. They are always looking in the rear-view mirror. They can’t imagine what a new socialist-capitalist society would look like. 

 

You can conserve humanistic ideals (2000 years old)
You can be progressive in bringing into life (2000 years old humanistic values)






 

Edited July 1, 2020 by Epikur

[Epikur]

1 hour ago, Apparition of Jack said:

@Epikur I feel your problem seems to be that you seem more interested in making the world fit your paradigm than accepting the world for the way it is.

Would a stage blue Republican be able to run New York if it was all white? Yes, probably, but the problem is that it isn’t all white, and hasn’t been for centuries. All the black, Chinese, Haitian, Lebanese, Puerto Rican, etc. New Yorkers are simply too embedded into NY society for anything other than multiculturalism to be feasible.

 

And this is a growing reality across the whole world. Cheap travel, population growth, intertwined economies and migration have all made the world far more multi-cultural and multi-racial than its ever been. You can walk down a street in Toronto and pass a Sikh community hall, an anarchist library, a Chinese temple and a Christian church all within a few blocks of each other. The idea of mono-cultural nation-states is a dying idea that has to be abandoned if we’re going to meet our collective needs. And the point is this trend is inevitable. Non-duality makes it so. There’s no going back from this reality, so it’s either we adapt or die.

When you look into the world I don't see a functioning reality too much. Most progressive systems are in crises are faced with a lot of resistance. Some of them turn to conservatism like East Europe and Brazil. They lose a lot of power against conservative countries like China, Russia, Turkey in world affairs. They can't keep up. 

We have cases like Singapore where the system seems to work good enough by many peoples standards. It is a mix between liberal and conservative elements. 

https://www.quora.com/How-liberal-or-conservative-is-Singapore

Edited July 1, 2020 by Epikur

[Epikur]

Team Cuomo

Edited July 1, 2020 by Epikur

[Epikur]

This was little bit surprising. I didn't expect Chris Cuomo inviting this guy (looks like Harvey Keitel):
 

 

Edited July 1, 2020 by Epikur

[Forestluv]

1 hour ago, Epikur said:

This was little bit surprising. I didn't expect Chris Cuomo inviting this guy (looks like Harvey Keitel):
 

 

LOL. It reminds me of someone trying to rationalize their absurd drunken behavior as they portray themself as the victim. . . “Swinging from the chandelier in my underwear as I urinated on myself was a reasonable thing to do at the time because I was protecting myself from an ABBA cover band playing the terrorist theme song ‘The Dancing Queen’. My boxer shorts are made of special fabric that when exposed to my own urine create an impenetrable barrier protecting my family jewels“

The lawyer is a nice touch. The guy might be concerned about legal jeopardy and want to get out ahead and frame the narrative. If it were me, I’d just lay low and let it die. I wouldn’t bring more attention to myself. 

[Epikur]

22 minutes ago, Serotoninluv said:

LOL. It reminds me of someone trying to rationalize their absurd drunken behavior as they portray themself as the victim. . . “Swinging from the chandelier in my underwear as I urinated on myself was a reasonable thing to do at the time because I was protecting myself from an ABBA cover band playing the terrorist theme song ‘The Dancing Queen’. My boxer shorts are made of special fabric that when exposed to my own urine create an impenetrable barrier protecting my family jewels“

The lawyer is a nice touch. The guy might be concerned about legal jeopardy and want to get out ahead and frame the narrative. If it were me, I’d just lay low and let it die. I wouldn’t bring more attention to myself. 

He is the classic superhero who defends the good against the evil. Most superhero action and cop movies work like that but times maybe changing and things get different?
 

 

[Forestluv]

@Epikur Superheroes are manifestations of our values. The superhero protects us from evil doers that want to harm us. Good and evil are relative constructs and who/what a “superhero” is is also relative. 

The article makes a good point about how we perceive superheroes and who gets to decide what has value and should be protected.

Who is the superhero? It depends on the era in history, the culture and perspective. Let’s say the early 1800s. Who would be a superhero? In the early 1800s, the vast majority of white people owned and supported slavery. Yet there were some murmurings arising of abolitionists arising. As well, western cultures were very misogynist and patriarchal. From the perspective of a white person, the “superhero” at this time would be a white man that destroyed the evil abolitionists and protected women and children from runaway violent slaves. . . . To a black slave, the superhero would be an abolitionist that saved them from the torment of slavery.  

In the modern era of the U.S. a “superhero” to a conservative may be a white male super cop that saves capitalism and “our way of life” from the evil socialists and communists invading the country. That’s fine, yet this is a bias. Who would the superhero be for an inner city black people that have to endure stop and frisk, police biases and an unjust justice and economic system? From their perspective, who is the superhero? It ain’t gonna be a white supercop saving wealthy white capitalists from evil socialists that want to give them medical care and basic income.

I haven’t read the article, yet my impression from the first few minutes of the video, the article is raising this issue. That is: who decides how to portray as “superhero” and who decides which people and values the superhero defends? In a lot of literature and movies, the superhero is portrayed through the lens of white people. It was only two years ago that the first major movie with a black super hero came out “Black Panther” in which the superhero had the interests and values of black people in mind.