Spiral Dynamics Stage Red Examples Mega-Thread

[lostingenosmaze]

 

[Bernardo Carleial]

18 hours ago, DIVINATOR said:

@Bernardo Carleial You're brilliant! Thank you for expanding my understanding. 

What is the Integral Method? Is that in the SD Model? I am currently reading the book. Is that in there?

@DIVINATOR if you wanna understand the integral model, I recommend you take a look at this page:

https://integrallife.com/what-is-integral-approach/

And do a research on Ken Wilber,  which is the one who developed the Integral Theory.

[integral]

Healthy Red, the Selfish Hero who fight only for himself, with honor "I'd rather die standing, than live kneeling", fearless with everything to lose, unbound strength that comes from sheer focus and will.

Standing his ground to die immortal. My will is absolute. 

Edited September 20, 2022 by integral

[kray]

https://youtu.be/dGf5cSRsyXo
 

[Chuco]

 

[mmKay]

Great healthy stage red example. take notes if you catch your daughter dating Andrew Tate types  as @Leo Gura recommended lol

Den of Thieves 2018 (Enson) 50 Cent threatens his daughter's boyfriend. "FULL SCENE".Den of Thieves 2018 (Enson) 50 Cent threatens his daughter's boyfriend. "FULL SCENE". ( YOUTUBE )

Edited November 19, 2022 by mmKay

[Majed]

if you have watched the ego development theory, this is clearly a stereotype of the opportunist stage of ego development. lots of blaming, magical thinking to make sense of the world, physical words for non physical stuff...

on the other hand you have compassion for this dude, his life was certainly not easy

[supremeyingyang]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veerappan

Unbelieveable. Trust me.

[Tatyana]

On 04.07.2020 at 0:46 PM, Lyubov said:

Red seems to also be more open to mystical experience vs orange's rationalistic thinking. lil ze from city of god I remember went to go see a shaman. I think this opening to the mystical is the gateway to blue.

Magical, mystical, shamans are actually the characteristics of stage Purple. Nothing and nobody is purely one stage and Red very often goes together with Purple as they are neighboring stages. For example, I heard that the person who calls himself Russian president goes to visit shamans from time to time and participates in rituals (sacrificial offerings involving killing animals) that he believes will bring him power and luck. They say that mystical (Purple) trends are very popular with the higher echelons and people around them. And this is just one example of their Purple consciousness. There are more.

[Tatyana]

On 19.10.2020 at 1:48 AM, Leo Gura said:

Yes, but I now recontextualize that as part of the state's overall national security response. The man's mind is clearly not stage Red in interviews. He is a very thoughtful guy, not impulsive at all. He's highly disciplined and he's also able to understand the perspectives of other sides very well. He's got an impressive intellect and wisdom. You also have to take into account the difficult situation he's in. Transitioning Russia into a modern democratic state is no small feat.

Think of the poisonings as akin to US drone strikes.

Ha-ha-ha. It’s so funny. I heard someone say recently that the Kremlin propaganda (of which Putin is certainly a part) can deceive even the brightest minds.  You are a living proof of that! It’s one thing that the KGB/FSB people can do better than probably anyone else in the world - lie, deceive and pretend. Make everybody believe that they are nice Blue/Orange guys, who want nothing else but “take good care of their people” and turn “Russia into a modern democratic state”. These are lies! Russia has been degrading since Putin/ KGB/FSB people came to power: destroyed economy, destroyed social welfare systems, numerous internal repressions under the guise of “national security”.  People wanting to change the government is a threat to national security! What a fantastic democratic state they are building! And there is no state by the way. It’s a fiction. It’s a fake construct maintained with one purpose only – let them steal as much as they want as long as they want and let them avoid the responsibility. It’s a terrorist state.

Edited December 10, 2022 by Tatyana

[Tatyana]

"I wrestled with an alligator, I done tussled with a whale; handcuffed lightning, thrown thunder in jail; only last week, I murdered a rock, injured a stone, hospitalized a brick; I'm so mean I make medicine sick."

[Tatyana]

https://www.amazon.com/Red-Notice-Finance-Murder-Justice/dp/147675571X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417791562&sr=8-1&keywords=red+notice

Red Notice - adventures of a stage Orange American guy (who subsequently became a human rights advocate) in Russia, a good illustration of the modern Russian state.

Edited December 10, 2022 by Tatyana

[Ulax]

Unhealthy red

The film is 'Nil By Mouth' directed by Gary Oldman.

[Carl-Richard]

Quote

A gang is a group or society of associates, friends or members of a family with a defined leadership and internal organization that identifies with or claims control over territory in a community and engages, either individually or collectively, in illegal, and possibly violent, behavior.

 

History

In discussing the banditry in American history, Barrington Moore, Jr. suggests that gangsterism as a "form of self-help which victimizes others" may appear in societies which lack strong "forces of law and order"; he characterizes European feudalism as "mainly gangsterism that had become society itself and acquired respectability through the notions of chivalry".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang

[lostingenosmaze]

 

[Raze]

 

[aurum]

On 12/28/2022 at 3:07 PM, ryandesreu said:

Schilling

TOUGHNESS - Pitching and running on an ankle that was surgically worked on 24 hours prior to game time. The unprecedented surgical procedure is named after him. (Schilling Tendon Procedure)

STRENGTH - Throwing a baseball 94 mph.

COMPETITIVE - Pitching in game 6 of the playoffs vs the hated rival New York Yankees.

WINNING - Playing to win the game which would ultimately lead to the Red Sox first World Series Championship since Babe Ruth in 1918. He is one of the winningest pitchers in playoff history and has won over 200 games in his MLB career.

The image of Curt Schilling show characteristics of stage red. He has publicly voiced his support for Trump and has spoken out against student loan forgiveness despite being bailed out millions of dollars for his own company's failure.

This sounds more Orange than Red to me. Orange is easily capable of all these things, including supporting Trump.

[Bernardo Carleial]

A very good example  of vMEME RED/blue.

In this case, they use agressive and violent demonstrations in order to attain or preserve their ideals of masculinity...

which, in this case, consists pretty much in the male dominance over women's sexuality 

[mmKay]

 

[Bernardo Carleial]

This guy is the most vMEME Red individual that I could find...

I also recommend you guys to take the time to appreciate how the Spiral Dynamics model is been played through in that (first) video:

A vMEME Red guest, confronting/ being confronted by a mostly vMEME Blue audience, and all this clash being broadcasted by an vMEME Orange tv show for entertainment...

Edited March 13, 2023 by Bernardo Carleial