Spiral Dynamics Stage Red Examples Mega-Thread

[AtheisticNonduality]

@Husseinisdoingfine BDSM is not Red.

[AtheisticNonduality]

@K Ghoul It can happen at any color.

[Michal__]

9 hours ago, K Ghoul said:

@AtheisticNonduality And Ted Bundy did not rape and kill anyone. 
Could you elaborate on why you think it’s not Red, and what color you think it is? 

 

1 hour ago, AtheisticNonduality said:

@K Ghoul It can happen at any color.

It begins at red and then gets milder and milder at every new color. The abusive kind is red/blue. A few slaps here and there can probably exist even in turqoise.

[ItsNick]

 

[ItsNick]

56 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

This video was made not too long after that guy, Elliot Rodger, ran his truck into all of those people.

 

Man that's so sad...bonding over self-loathing..

[Matt23]

00:28  & 00:46 seem like prime examples

 

[Leo Gura]

Keep in mind that there can be healthy ways to express Red animalistic impulses in harmless ways. For example, playing a violent video game could a healthy way for kids to experience their Red shadow without hurting anyone and ultimately outgrowing the desire for violence. This, as opposed to kids who start fist-fights at school.

[Matt23]

Just saw how Han Solo has some Red in him.  Especially at the start of the story.  More healthy aspects I'd say though: daring, audacity, shoot first and ask later, action oriented, etc.  Perhaps he moves into Blue as well later as his character develops.  

Jabba I'd say is also Red, though, perhaps a more unhealthy version and probably has more of it.

 

[Leo Gura]

@Matt23 Not Red since he didn't shoot first

Jabba is a good Red example!

A Red tyrant would love that rancor pit.

 

[Matt23]

@Leo Gura What about when he shot that alien dude in the bar?  He seems very action-oriented to me and like he's able to utilize Red aspects to get out of trouble, and use his courage, warrior spirit, and audacity; like he did in this video with Jabba.. Jabba had him surrounded but he acted so cool and like he didn't care at all.  Like fighting, escaping and out-flying others.   It's like that Indiana Jones type of adventurous warrior spirit... lots of action, daring, fighting, etc.  Not too well thought out...  Would you not say those are healthy aspects of Red being put to use?   

[Matt23]

He's no Joe Pesci, I can see that though haha...  I'm having trouble placing Han on the spiral...  Orange-ish?

[Carl-Richard]

24 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Keep in mind that there can be healthy ways to express Red animalistic impulses in harmless ways. For example, playing a violent video game could a healthy way for kids to experience their Red shadow without hurting anyone and ultimately outgrowing the desire for violence. This, as opposed to kids who start fist-fights at school.

I remember back in 5-7th grade, there had developed this weird culture among the guys where we would get up from behind somebody's back without them suspecting it, and then try to pin them to the ground as fast and violently as possible. 

It was essentially a normal way that the guys would greet eachother, and it was just really exciting and typical adrenaline-filled guy-on-guy behavior (that came out wrong ).

It had gotten so bad infact that one time when my girlfriend tried to jump up on my back without me suspecting it, I immediately threw her to the ground as a reflexive response, and that was so damn awkward lol. I did it so fast, she didn't even know what happened ().

Everybody was in on it, and we didn't really get hurt. However, it had to come to an end. I believe it went on for a solid two years until one time it happened in front of one of the cool teachers (who had also gotten used to it), and then he said in a begrudging tone: "OK guys, I think it's time you stop doing that, don't you think?" ...and that was all it took for us to go from red to blue .

Edited August 31, 2020 by Carl-Richard

[Lyubov]

On 8/28/2020 at 7:52 PM, coca said:

 

the guy in your vid I think was shot to death and the woman in this is now in prison for murder 

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, Matt23 said:

@Leo Gura What about when he shot that alien dude in the bar?

I was making a Star Wars joke.

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He seems very action-oriented to me and like he's able to utilize Red aspects to get out of trouble, and use his courage, warrior spirit, and audacity; like he did in this video with Jabba.. Jabba had him surrounded but he acted so cool and like he didn't care at all.  Like fighting, escaping and out-flying others.   It's like that Indiana Jones type of adventurous warrior spirit... lots of action, daring, fighting, etc.  Not too well thought out...  Would you not say those are healthy aspects of Red being put to use?   

Han has some Red, but I'd say his center of gravity is more Orange.

In the first Star Wars movie Han's entire character arc was about him going from Orange to Green. He was this selfish, independent jackass who was too self-centered to join the rebels, and at the last second he changes his mind and flys in to save Luke from Vader's tie-fighter, enabling Luke to make his shot and destroy the Death Star.

So, basically, Han Solo's story is that of a selfish jackass who had a change of heart and became an SJW.

Star Wars: Rise of The SJW

It's amazing how conservatives can love Star Wars and yet not get that the entire movie is about being a SJW.

[Leo Gura]

 

[Forestluv]

[Forestluv]

Magical Purple spirits of nature become powerful Red gods with human foibles; they are spiteful, demanding and jealous. Red Aztec Gods:

[Forestluv]

Stage Red is sometime seen in childhood books and videos, which can influence the development of a child's self identity. As a child, I felt strongly connected to the Green TinMan and Scarecrow. The Red wicked witch and her flying monkeys terrified me and gave me nightmares. The evil wicked witch was contrasted with the Good Witch of the North, introducing a binary blue Good vs Evil. 

 

[Aspiraling Wizard]

The dark side of Egypt

[Forestluv]

A grandiose depiction of Red Emperor Cortes conquering and indigenous tribe: