Spiral Dynamics Stage Red Examples Mega-Thread

[AtheisticNonduality]

Punks are Green.  The collectivism comes through the individualism of ALL people, not people with money ruling over others.

[Carl-Richard]

  On 7/18/2020 at 7:36 PM, Artsu said:

I'll recommend the band Cynic.

Cynic is part of a later wave of 90s progressive metal that started to incorporate elements of jazz, which is arguably the start of green-ish tendencies atleast stylistically. They also have some spiritual and psychedelic themes, and some of the band members are followers of buddhism and openly homosexual (in later years). They later moved away from metal and towards progressive rock/jazz.

[Carl-Richard]

  On 7/19/2020 at 1:28 AM, AtheisticNonduality said:

Punks are Green.  The collectivism comes through the individualism of ALL people, not people with money ruling over others.

Ideologically, 70s punk rock was anti-establishment (which for that era mainly entails libertarianism/anarcism), which is a reaction to authoritarianism (blue), and stylistically they're reacting to the green elements of 60s rock:

"Punk was a musical movement that reacted against the pastoral sentimentality, expressionistic excess, and superstar bloat of '60s rock with short, fast, hard, acerbic songs. It was also a subculture that scornfully rejected the political idealism and Californian flower-power silliness of hippie myth." -  http://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/bkrev/mcneil-nyt.php.

Green came back with movements like post-punk etc..

Edited July 19, 2020 by Carl-Richard

[Sleyker]

I actually like this man's channel, he was the biggest jewel robber in the US and now has a YT channel when he tells crazy stories from prison, heists and offers advice and support for wanna be criminals and young people. 

He also reviews GTA heists and points out the mistakes on the setup and planning of the robberies, I find that kind of cool. 

 

[Leo Gura]

Take your debates about music to another thread.

[AtheisticNonduality]

@Sleyker Larry Lawton is Red turned to straight Green.  I like your Avenged Sevenfold logo.

[OBEler]

@Leo Gura why they should not talk about music. Music can be also put into spiral dynamic. 

Red: hardcore metal

Blue: Military march

Orange: rock/rap

Green: hippy music

Yellow: classic music

Turquise: binaural beats 

[AtheisticNonduality]

 

[Leo Gura]

  On 7/19/2020 at 0:18 PM, OBEler said:

@Leo Gura why they should not talk about music. Music can be also put into spiral dynamic. 

Red: hardcore metal

Blue: Military march

Orange: rock/rap

Green: hippy music

Yellow: classic music

Turquise: binaural beats 

Because that debate derails this thread. Music is controversial and people love to debate about it endlessly. Go debate it in another thread.

[Carl-Richard]

  On 7/20/2020 at 5:05 AM, Leo Gura said:

Because that debate derails this thread. Music is controversial and people love to debate about it endlessly. Go debate it in another thread.

I need to take my own advice more often lol :

  On 7/18/2020 at 2:55 AM, Carl-Richard said:

I don't think much more needs to be said on this topic. It has been thorougly gone through in this thread once already.

 

Edited July 20, 2020 by Carl-Richard

[Akemrelax]

Is BDSM red?

[VerballyHazardous]

@Akemrelax

No.

[AtheisticNonduality]

@Akemrelax No.

[seriousman24]

  On 7/19/2020 at 0:18 PM, OBEler said:

@Leo Gura why they should not talk about music. Music can be also put into spiral dynamic. 

Red: hardcore metal

Blue: Military march

Orange: rock/rap

Green: hippy music

Yellow: classic music

Turquise: binaural beats 

Red:music you quite never got the appeal of

Blue:what you're personally afraid off

Orange: something you used to like

Green: something you enjoy when you're feeling good/in the mood

Yellow: music you think most people don't get

Turquise: you don't actually love music

just poking fun at it hope you don't mind it's all within my personal biases just bantering for personal amusement we better stop before leo strikes us with the love hammer

 

[Zabuloon]

Al Capone. American gangster. 

 

[Zabuloon]

Niccolò Machiavelli. Diplomat, philosopher and writer.

[soos_mite_ah]

  On 7/22/2020 at 9:14 PM, Moon said:

I thought it would be...?

doesn't mean people who do it are purely stage red (they're probably only a small % red if living in western society) 

 if it's consensual and somewhat safe, it's better than some of the other manifestations of red it could've been 

I feel like green people are more likely to be into BDSM compared to say blue and orange people who get freaked out about it (at least from what I've noticed). BDSM might be red, but i think a lot of green people are into it because they feel that they can express their red shadow in a healthy setting with consent. Not sure if that makes 100% sense but it's just a thought. 

[AtheisticNonduality]

Not my favorite thing, but I don't think it's low consciousness.  It's just a different extreme expression.

[Zabuloon]

Genghis Khan.  Emperor of the Mongol Empire.

[Leo Gura]

The Roman power grabs by the imperial family has a lot of examples of ruthless stage Red behavior: