Spiral Dynamics Stage Red Examples Mega-Thread

[Leo Gura]

17 hours ago, Raphael said:

It seems to me that hardcore metal music is stage red. I didn't understand this kind of music most of my life, my bet now is that some people who have a lot of anger and insecurities release it through metal music. I don't know if this is healthy though.

 

I think there are actually some studies which show the effect heavy metal music vs classical music has on the mind/consciousness.

You ain't gonna find some blissed out yogi listening to heavy metal for a reason.

Heavy metal will affect your consciousness in a similar way that watching horror movies might. The lower your consciousness the more you will gravitate towards dark, brash, aggressive material.

Speaking of Red, I recently heard a report that one of Trump's favorite movies is Bloodsport, and when he watches it, he has his son fast-forward past all the dialogue and love scenes, to get to the bloody action. So it's just 60 minutes of pure bloody action. That's how Red operates. It sure explains a lot.

He literally could only stand to watch 20 minutes of a movie about an angel! You can't make this shit up.

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Serotoninluv said:

In two thousand years, humans may look back on Orange as barbaric.

It's already happening! LOL

[Annoynymous]

2 hours ago, Serotoninluv said:

The Old Testament is dripping with red. I try to keep in mind that it was a red level culture then. In two thousand years, humans may look back on Orange as barbaric. In 4020, humans might look back and say “Back in 2020, human societies had both billionaires and homeless people” and everyone gasps how barbaric that was.

@Serotoninluv it already sounds very barbaric to me.

[AtheisticNonduality]

14 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The lower your consciousness the more you will gravitate towards dark, brash, aggressive material.

 

Darkness and the beauty of antipathy can be very enlightening.  Opposition is probably a better word than antipathy--when it comes to tenebrosity and assisting people elevate in consciousness through force.

Edited June 28, 2020 by AtheisticNonduality

[AtheisticNonduality]

Very intelligent Orange/Green person with quite a few personal issues.

@Leo Gura

 

[AtheisticNonduality]

Red-time story.

[billiesimon]

On 27/6/2020 at 7:17 PM, onacloudynight said:

Red defeated 

Frieza is an excellent example of stage red's hunger for power and egomania.

On the other hand, Goku is an excellent example of a stage green warrior.
He has very little ego compared to other people in the series, and cares a lot about defending almost everybody  

[AtheisticNonduality]

 

[AtheisticNonduality]

As psychedelics can temporarily bring the average person to Turquoise, there's reason to believe addictive drugs can temporarily make you Red.  I would highly recommend watching this video:

 

[Eren Eeager]

guys what is healthy red or is it unhealthy by definition?

[Extreme Z7]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I think there are actually some studies which show the effect heavy metal music vs classical music has on the mind/consciousness.

You ain't gonna find some blissed out yogi listening to heavy metal for a reason.

The lower your consciousness the more you will gravitate towards dark, brash, aggressive material.

So pretentious lol. . . Letting yourself loose to hardcore music is still a legitimate expression of consciousness.

Personally, I'm more of a House/Techno guy but I have great respect for the dark (musical) arts.

[Extreme Z7]

@Leo Gura Don't create an arbitrary duality between Heavy Metal and Classical music.

Edited June 29, 2020 by Extreme Z7

[Carl-Richard]

10 minutes ago, Extreme Z7 said:

So pretentious lol. . . Letting yourself loose to hardcore music is still a legitimate expression of consciousness.

Personally, I'm more of a House/Techno guy but I have great respect for the dark (musical) arts.

There is some validity to what Leo is saying, and that is coming from an ex- death metal fan. I used to listen to the darkest forms of heavy music out there, but after meditating for a couple of years, my music taste completely changed. Now it's leaning more towards psychedelic/progressive rock, jazz, classical etc.. Heavy music just feels toxic at some level. The heaviest I would go nowadays is maybe some Tool when working out, and even that gets tiring after a while, despite the spiritual and soulful dimension of their sound and lyrics.

Edited June 29, 2020 by Carl-Richard

[AtheisticNonduality]

5 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

The heaviest I would go nowadays is maybe some Tool when working out, and even that gets tiring after a while, despite the "spiritual" and soulful dimension of their sound and lyrics.

Tool is awake.

[Carl-Richard]

20 minutes ago, Eren Eeager said:

guys what is healthy red or is it unhealthy by definition?

On 27.6.2020 at 3:47 AM, Carl-Richard said:

Healthy integration of Red
 

 

 

[Extreme Z7]

1 minute ago, Carl-Richard said:

There is some validity to what Leo is saying, and that is coming from an ex-death metal fan. I used to listen to the darkest forms of heavy music out there, but after meditating for a couple of years, my music taste completely changed. Now it's leaning more towards psychedelic/progressive rock, jazz, classical etc.. Heavy music just feels toxic at some level. The heaviest I would go nowadays is maybe some Tool when working out, and even that gets tiring after a while.

That's sorta my story too. I used to be a huge fan of Hardcore Techno stuff but the more consciousness work I've done, the more I've begun to appreciate more moderate laid-back styles of Dance music. Plus I was also just really pretentious about being "hardcore" back then, it was childish and I had to let it go.

Although maybe Hardcore Electronic music has a more "hypnotic" feel to me than Hardcore Rock music. To be perfectly honest, I'm not that big a fan of the latter so perhaps I'm not completely on board with Heavy Metal as you might think I am.

Hardcore Techno could be a bit more of a compromise for me and my consciousness work than most Heavy Metal tracks.

 

[Carl-Richard]

33 minutes ago, AtheisticNonduality said:

Tool is awake.

For sure. Disposition, Reflection, Triad has some of the most beautiful moments in music ever. I get emotional even talking about it.

Btw, have you seen this one? Such a good match and feel-good wibes  

 

Edited June 29, 2020 by Carl-Richard

[AtheisticNonduality]

Never underestimate the music of angry Greens:

 

Anybody that takes Manson's lyrics non-sarcastically are sure to be horrified.

@Carl-Richard @Extreme Z7  

[AtheisticNonduality]

47 minutes ago, Extreme Z7 said:

 

 

I was just brainwashed by aliens.

Edited June 29, 2020 by AtheisticNonduality

[AtheisticNonduality]

42 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

 

 

The power of autotune.