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Spiral Dynamics Stage Red Examples Mega-Thread

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On 12/6/2023 at 10:10 PM, Husseinisdoingfine said:

 

Naive, much better the American way. 

when the fight is unavoidable, provoke and allow your opponent to strike first, (or even strike yourself) a spectacular blow without much effect, planned and controlled. then crush them. you will have the victory and the reason. The second is almost so important than the first.

Edited by Breakingthewall

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Limp Bizkit - Break Stuff (lyrics)

It's just one of those days where you don't want to wake up
Everything is fucked, everybody sucks
You don't really know why but you want to justify
Rippin' someone's head off
No human contact
And if you interact, your life is on contract
Your best bet is to stay away motherfucker
It's just one of those days

It's all about the he says, she says bullshit
I think you better quit, let the shit slip
Or you'll be leaving with a fat lip
It's all about the he says, she says bullshit
I think you better quit, talking that shit

It's just one of those days, feeling like a freight train
First one to complain leaves with a bloodstain
Damn right, I'm a maniac
You better watch your back 'cause I'm fucking up your program
And if you're stuck up, you just lucked up
Next in line to get fucked up
Your best bet is to stay away, motherfucker
It's just one of those days

It's all about the he says, she says bullshit
I think you better quit, let the shit slip
Or you'll be leaving with a fat lip
It's all about the he says, she says bullshit
I think you better quit, talking that shit punk
So come and get it

I feel like shit
My suggestion, is to keep your distance
'Cause right now I'm dangerous
But we've all felt like shit
And been treated like shit
All those motherfuckers that want to step up

I hope you know, I pack a chainsaw (chainsaw)
I'll skin your ass raw (ass raw)
And if my day keeps going this way, I just might
Break something tonight
I pack a chainsaw (chainsaw)
I'll skin your ass raw (ass raw)
And if my day keeps going this way, I just might
Break something tonight
I pack a chainsaw (chainsaw)
I'll skin your ass raw (ass raw)
And if my day keeps going this way, I just might
Break your fucking face tonight

Give me something to break
Give me something to break
Just give me something to break
How 'bout your fucking face?

I hope you know, I pack a chainsaw
What?
A chainsaw
What?
A motherfucking chainsaw
What?
So come and get it

It's all about the he says, she says bullshit
I think you better quit, let the shit slip
Or you'll be leaving with a fat lip
It's all about the he says, she says bullshit
I think you better quit, talking that shit, punk
So come and get it

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Nothingness cannot be seen with eyes, Nor heard with ears, Tasted with the tongue, Smelt with the nose, Felt by the body, Or known by the mind ~ God is Nothingness by Andrew Halaw

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A very good example of how someone can get trapped into a vMEME RED/blue group, and how to escape it.

 

 

 

P.S: I say these groups  has some blue in it, because they believe in some (distorted) moral code  on how society should be organized, that doesn't involve just the fulfillment of their selfish needs, but that is completely polluted with hatred, bigotry and egocentism, which allows them to justify their actions by means of force and violence.

 

 

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I found this video on Leo's Blog.

A very good example of how vMEME Red prostitution works , and the psychological tricks that pimps do in order to get the girls and keep them around. 

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Red vs Green

 

 

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By his auntie he was molested as a baby boy

Messed up his head, it even changed the way he played with toys

Up late night rappin' and they told him to quit making noise

Stuck in his feelings, he been spendin' every day annoyed

He wanna stand over a n**** and leave his face destroyed

He miss his hood, now thats something that he can't avoid


Nothingness cannot be seen with eyes, Nor heard with ears, Tasted with the tongue, Smelt with the nose, Felt by the body, Or known by the mind ~ God is Nothingness by Andrew Halaw

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On 9/6/2023 at 5:01 PM, Artsu said:

Stage red is about materialism, not aggression.

Nope, materialism is more orange than red. Aggression is more red than orange. 


Nothingness cannot be seen with eyes, Nor heard with ears, Tasted with the tongue, Smelt with the nose, Felt by the body, Or known by the mind ~ God is Nothingness by Andrew Halaw

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5 hours ago, Spiritual Warrior said:

Nope, materialism is more orange than red. Aggression is more red than orange. 

That's because the stereotypes are wrong.

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This is a story about how a stage red character was brought up, from his environment to his upbringing. How do we get a person like this to move up the spiral? You get him into a church, get him to start believing in something bigger than himself. Good luck Malcolm. 

Malcolm by G Herbo 

Once upon a time around the Southside

A young black man grew up in a house

Had a pops he never knew, with a mom thats strung out

His granny careless just about, say he'll never make it out

Of the hood and had a handful of aunties that could vouch

Young n**** named Malcolm, all his homies called him Malc'

Big brother off in college, Malcolm took another route

From gang bangin', caine slangin', moms threw him out the house

Stuck on probation, on and off since 13, been in and out

Soon as he turned 17, s*** got super wild

Still a juvenile, he just totin' Rugers now

He shotin' now, streets got him, Malcolm ruthless now

.........

Edited by Spiritual Warrior

Nothingness cannot be seen with eyes, Nor heard with ears, Tasted with the tongue, Smelt with the nose, Felt by the body, Or known by the mind ~ God is Nothingness by Andrew Halaw

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Sully from the netflix series top boy is a PERFECT example. Man don't feel empathy at all, just ready to kill. 

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If you want to integrate a healthy stage red, this is what its all about. Thick Face Black Heart.

Necessary to integrate if you are needy for peoples approval. 


Nothingness cannot be seen with eyes, Nor heard with ears, Tasted with the tongue, Smelt with the nose, Felt by the body, Or known by the mind ~ God is Nothingness by Andrew Halaw

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   Really good story, shows stage red and why the right martial arts is important for fighting in real life:

 

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This 2Pac clip was on the Green Megathread.

I get it. What he is sayin is green, but there is something beneath that.

He doesn't sound like your typical green-hippie.

 

 

Is tough to put Pac in the spiral.

We was sent to jail for rape (unhealthy red).

He had the work ethic and discipline to become one of the greats: Blue

He loved the money, girls and fame: Orange.

And a lot of his music is red. And some green.

And he had some green values.

 

But check out this clip.

The words, the philosophy, the content, is green.

But it doesn't sound as green.

If some green-weak-hippie said the same words, probably wouldn't resonate that much.

But if you say this words, with that red attitude/swag, it hits different.
 

A lot of this green activists, (vegans, climate change advocates...) don't have a healthy developed red, so people get tired of those people.

They are seen as mere complainers. As weak.

They lack that visceral passion. They seem dead inside. Just focusing on some external ‘higher’ cause for validation.

Like Peterson say, people who can't even clean their fucking room.

And if they have some hate, or passion, it seem ungrounded, and unhealthy, like Greta.

 

Another example could be Mike Tyson. The fact he has that red in him that makes him lovable.

Or imagine that the stars align and Tate became green. That would be powerful. 

 

They say woman want a beast. And then domesticate that beast.

Well, that red-green combo really hits home. 

You can see it in guys like 2Pac or Mike Tyson.

Loved by women. Adored by men.
 

Green values, with red swag visceral passion.

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Alex and his droogs are sure Red (and for some people,a really unhealthy version of it)

About the goverment and the ludovico experiment,i would say they mix red with blue,perfect mix.

 

About a unhealthy red - orange mix,maybe a perfect mix of it but not so sure, i think i would go with Daniel Plainview from There Will Be Blood. Same thing with Louis Bloom.0_FkV69fpOJBJa5wVR.png

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The way of the Sith and their search for power fits really well

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Ego 

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Lust

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