Leo Gura

Spiral Dynamics Stage Red Examples Mega-Thread

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12 hours ago, Bernardo Carleial said:

This guy is the most vMEME Red individual that I could find...

I also recommend you guys to take the time to appreciate how the Spiral Dynamics model is been played through in that (first) video:

A vMEME Red guest, confronting/ being confronted by a mostly vMEME Blue audience, and all this clash being broadcasted by an vMEME Orange tv show for entertainment...

Wow. Great find.


"Finding your reason can be so deceiving, a subliminal place. 

I will not break, 'cause I've been riding the curves of these infinity words and so I'll be on my way. I will not stay.

 And it goes On and On, On and On"

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A charismatic stage red character 

 

 

 

Edited by Spiritual Warrior

Nothingness cannot be seen with eyes, Nor heard with ears, Tasted with the tongue, Smelt with the nose, Felt by the body, Or known by the mind ~ God is Nothingness by Andrew Halaw

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I watched season 1 of You on Netflix recently, and Joe is a classic example of a negative version of stage red. He is manipulative, controlling, and puts his own desires above everyone else's (with the exception of his relationship with a 10 year old kid Paco, who it seems Joe has genuine compassion towards.) 

In regards to his relationship with Beck, he steals her phone and stalks her, kills her current boyfriend, and also kills her best friend. He does all of these things "for her own good". What he fails to realize is that he is not doing these things for her, he is doing these things for himself. This is a very twisted form of love that he has established for Beck. And to top it all off, he kills Beck off as well because she finds out all of the things that he's done. 

I would have continued watching this show if Joe had some more complexity to him, but I don't think Joe is going anywhere on the spiral.

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Nothingness cannot be seen with eyes, Nor heard with ears, Tasted with the tongue, Smelt with the nose, Felt by the body, Or known by the mind ~ God is Nothingness by Andrew Halaw

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@mmKay I think that these cats are in stage Beige instead of stage red. Stage Beige's main goal is to survive and reproduce. The cats in this video see other cats as encroaching on their territory, i.e. encroaching on their ability to survive and reproduce. Stage red is more power hungry and has more of an ego that I don't think that cats have the ability to embody just yet. 


Nothingness cannot be seen with eyes, Nor heard with ears, Tasted with the tongue, Smelt with the nose, Felt by the body, Or known by the mind ~ God is Nothingness by Andrew Halaw

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@mmKay Fair enough :)


Nothingness cannot be seen with eyes, Nor heard with ears, Tasted with the tongue, Smelt with the nose, Felt by the body, Or known by the mind ~ God is Nothingness by Andrew Halaw

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Connor McGregor has become so successful and famous not just because he is an excellent fighter, but because he has embodied stage red so well in a sport that rewards intimidation tactics, charismatic speech, and controversial behavior. 


Nothingness cannot be seen with eyes, Nor heard with ears, Tasted with the tongue, Smelt with the nose, Felt by the body, Or known by the mind ~ God is Nothingness by Andrew Halaw

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I like this video of Patty Mayo because it shows the respect that red individuals have for other red individuals. At 37:55, Patty and his crew finally catch the boy that they are after. The boy puts up a really good fight, getting tased 6 times in the process. Once the kid is in handcuffs and the dust settles, I start to get a sense of an underlying respect for the kid, despite him giving the 3 cops so much trouble. He is big and strong and tough, this is what stage red respects. If it was some tie dye shirt wearing hippy, Patty and his men would have scoffed and belittled him. Red is not impressed with a stage green character. 

I think Patty is blue/red. The red in him allows him to act aggressively when he needs to and the blue in him grounds him in the principles and ethics of police work. His empathy is not high, but to do this work, you don't need empathy, in fact it would get in the way of doing your job. You don't want a stage green hippy working as a police officer. A blue / red person is perfect jobs like police work, military work, and security. 


Nothingness cannot be seen with eyes, Nor heard with ears, Tasted with the tongue, Smelt with the nose, Felt by the body, Or known by the mind ~ God is Nothingness by Andrew Halaw

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Artistic expression of a stage red toxic relationship by Kendrick Lamar


Nothingness cannot be seen with eyes, Nor heard with ears, Tasted with the tongue, Smelt with the nose, Felt by the body, Or known by the mind ~ God is Nothingness by Andrew Halaw

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A very interesting example of how vMEME Red paramilitary groups can have strong ties to governments worldwide 

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أشهد أن لا إله إلا الله وأشهد أن ليو رسول الله

Translation: I bear witness that there is no God but Allah, and Leo [Gura] is the messenger of Allah.

 

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Not Anneke Lucas but the perpetrators of her abuse.


There is no failure, only feedback

One small step at a time. No one climbs a mountain in one go.

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The Mongols as described in the Monk's account


There is no failure, only feedback

One small step at a time. No one climbs a mountain in one go.

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1. The ISIS members in the Badush prison massacre.

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2. The Wehrmacht in the Babi Yar massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar (See section titled: 'Massacres of September 1941')

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3. The Taliban in the 2014 Peshawar school massacre 

 


There is no failure, only feedback

One small step at a time. No one climbs a mountain in one go.

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What I like about this video is that, at the end, they try to contextualize what is happening in that environment, in order to understand why these vMEME Red pirates have emerged. 

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On 6/12/2023 at 1:10 PM, Husseinisdoingfine said:

 

Putin's life philosophy in a nutshell.

Thanks for sharing!


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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@Leo Gura Isn't that some simple common sense though?

Everybody would strike if sufficiently threatened. The problem with Putin is that he is overly aggressive and cruel. 

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