Spiral Dynamics Stage Red Examples Mega-Thread

[Tatyana]

"I wrestled with an alligator, I done tussled with a whale; handcuffed lightning, thrown thunder in jail; only last week, I murdered a rock, injured a stone, hospitalized a brick; I'm so mean I make medicine sick."

[Tatyana]

https://www.amazon.com/Red-Notice-Finance-Murder-Justice/dp/147675571X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417791562&sr=8-1&keywords=red+notice

Red Notice - adventures of a stage Orange American guy (who subsequently became a human rights advocate) in Russia, a good illustration of the modern Russian state.

Edited December 10, 2022 by Tatyana

[Ulax]

Unhealthy red

The film is 'Nil By Mouth' directed by Gary Oldman.

[Carl-Richard]

Quote

A gang is a group or society of associates, friends or members of a family with a defined leadership and internal organization that identifies with or claims control over territory in a community and engages, either individually or collectively, in illegal, and possibly violent, behavior.

 

History

In discussing the banditry in American history, Barrington Moore, Jr. suggests that gangsterism as a "form of self-help which victimizes others" may appear in societies which lack strong "forces of law and order"; he characterizes European feudalism as "mainly gangsterism that had become society itself and acquired respectability through the notions of chivalry".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang

[lostingenosmaze]

 

[ryandesreu]

Curt Schilling

TOUGHNESS - Pitching and running on an ankle that was surgically worked on 24 hours prior to game time. The unprecedented surgical procedure is named after him. (Schilling Tendon Procedure)

STRENGTH - Throwing a baseball 94 mph.

COMPETITIVE - Pitching in game 6 of the playoffs vs the hated rival New York Yankees.

WINNING - Playing to win the game which would ultimately lead to the Red Sox first World Series Championship since Babe Ruth in 1918. He is one of the winningest pitchers in playoff history and has won over 200 games in his MLB career.

The image of Curt Schilling show characteristics of stage red. He has publicly voiced his support for Trump and has spoken out against student loan forgiveness despite being bailed out millions of dollars for his own company's failure.

 

Sports Fights

There is also a history of brawls between in the Red Sox and Yankees. Here is an example with a comical play-by-play courtesy of Jomboy Media.

 

[Raze]

 

[aurum]

On 12/28/2022 at 3:07 PM, ryandesreu said:

Schilling

TOUGHNESS - Pitching and running on an ankle that was surgically worked on 24 hours prior to game time. The unprecedented surgical procedure is named after him. (Schilling Tendon Procedure)

STRENGTH - Throwing a baseball 94 mph.

COMPETITIVE - Pitching in game 6 of the playoffs vs the hated rival New York Yankees.

WINNING - Playing to win the game which would ultimately lead to the Red Sox first World Series Championship since Babe Ruth in 1918. He is one of the winningest pitchers in playoff history and has won over 200 games in his MLB career.

The image of Curt Schilling show characteristics of stage red. He has publicly voiced his support for Trump and has spoken out against student loan forgiveness despite being bailed out millions of dollars for his own company's failure.

This sounds more Orange than Red to me. Orange is easily capable of all these things, including supporting Trump.

[Bernardo Carleial]

A very good example  of vMEME RED/blue.

In this case, they use agressive and violent demonstrations in order to attain or preserve their ideals of masculinity...

which, in this case, consists pretty much in the male dominance over women's sexuality 

[mmKay]

 

[Bernardo Carleial]

This guy is the most vMEME Red individual that I could find...

I also recommend you guys to take the time to appreciate how the Spiral Dynamics model is been played through in that (first) video:

A vMEME Red guest, confronting/ being confronted by a mostly vMEME Blue audience, and all this clash being broadcasted by an vMEME Orange tv show for entertainment...

Edited March 13, 2023 by Bernardo Carleial

[aurum]

12 hours ago, Bernardo Carleial said:

This guy is the most vMEME Red individual that I could find...

I also recommend you guys to take the time to appreciate how the Spiral Dynamics model is been played through in that (first) video:

A vMEME Red guest, confronting/ being confronted by a mostly vMEME Blue audience, and all this clash being broadcasted by an vMEME Orange tv show for entertainment...

Wow. Great find.

[Spiritual Warrior]

A charismatic stage red character 

 

 

 

Edited April 4, 2023 by Spiritual Warrior

[Spiritual Warrior]

I watched season 1 of You on Netflix recently, and Joe is a classic example of a negative version of stage red. He is manipulative, controlling, and puts his own desires above everyone else's (with the exception of his relationship with a 10 year old kid Paco, who it seems Joe has genuine compassion towards.) 

In regards to his relationship with Beck, he steals her phone and stalks her, kills her current boyfriend, and also kills her best friend. He does all of these things "for her own good". What he fails to realize is that he is not doing these things for her, he is doing these things for himself. This is a very twisted form of love that he has established for Beck. And to top it all off, he kills Beck off as well because she finds out all of the things that he's done. 

I would have continued watching this show if Joe had some more complexity to him, but I don't think Joe is going anywhere on the spiral.

Edited April 4, 2023 by Spiritual Warrior

[Spiritual Warrior]

@mmKay I think that these cats are in stage Beige instead of stage red. Stage Beige's main goal is to survive and reproduce. The cats in this video see other cats as encroaching on their territory, i.e. encroaching on their ability to survive and reproduce. Stage red is more power hungry and has more of an ego that I don't think that cats have the ability to embody just yet. 

[mmKay]

@Spiritual Warrior it was just a fun share. Spiral dynamics is a model of the development of human psyche. Applying it to other animals is unacurrate

[Spiritual Warrior]

@mmKay Fair enough

[lostingenosmaze]

 

[mmKay]

 

 

WARNING : Absolutely brutal. Idk how is their channel even up

[lostingenosmaze]

@mmKay Hardcore ?