'Flirting' message of my gf to work colleague

[integral]

@Roy How do you feel about it? 

[Preety_India]

@integral  I never feel the urge to date or have sex with another person while I'm in a relationship with my boyfriend. Never happened even once in all of my relationships 

 If it was a natural instinct as you say, I should have had this instinct. And I didn't experience any fear holding me back. The simple reason is that I am not a cheater

I never had any fear. I always had more love for my partner than anything else and I wanted to be with him out of love and not out of fear.

In fact even if I met the best person, the most attractive male, I still wouldn't cheat, simply because I love my partner so much that even such a throught would never cross my mind. In fact I would find it disgusting if that attractive man suggested me to cheat on my partner. 

What you are saying is completely false and nonsense. 

The problem is that you are thinking like a cheater. Or player. That's why you feel like it's an instinct. Because all cheaters feel that way. They can't resist. They feel like they are holding something back out of fear. Because they don't love their partners. That's why they easily get attracted to others. 

The problem is that you are not inside the mind of a loyal person, example me. So you can't comprehend how I think and feel 

I will give you a simple example to make you understand how you think. 

Let's say you like to or want to rob a store. You constantly get the urge to do that. You might even justify it by saying that it's natural instinct to want to rob a store when nobody is looking. 

So when you are asked about other people, you say "oh, they are resisting out of fear of jail, if they didn't have the fear of jail /prison, they would definitely go around robbing stores because it's natural instinct."

Now it you were to ask people about it, they would tell you that they never got the urge to rob or steal. Not because of fear of getting caught or jail, but because they never felt like doing it. In fact they felt the opposite. Even if there were no laws, they still wouldn't steal because they respect the store, they respect things and they would never want to cause any form of harm. They see robbing as pointless. 

But since you are a thief, you think that everyone thinks like you and you reason their behavior as something caused by fear.. 

The same way. You are stuck in a cheater's mind. 

So you are assuming that everyone must be thinking like you. When that's a false belief. 

People don't cheat on their spouses, not out of fear, but because they truly love their partner and do not see others in the same way. 

I'm faithful and loyal to my partner because my basic instinct is to be loyal, that's what I want, and that's what I reflect. I'm not living in dissonance of doing something different but wanting something different. My love is with my boyfriend. He is the love of my life and I would never want anyone but him. 

Your thinking is stemming from low morals, low values and low consciousness.. 

But fortunately, not everyone thinks like you because they operate from a higher paradigm of morals. 

 

 

 

Edited June 29, 2020 by Preety_India

[integral]

8 hours ago, Preety_India said:

@integral  I never feel the urge to date or have sex with another person while I'm in a relationship with my boyfriend. Never happened even once in all of my relationships 

I feel exactly the same way when in a relationship, the subject was about instincts, someone is good looking because we are assessing there attractiveness/compatibility, it is a subconscious automatic process. There is no erge to pursue sex, there is the instinct to have it. We are talking about the most primitive parts of our brain. This is a mix up of instincts and values.

 If it was a natural instinct as you say, I should have had this instinct. And I didn't experience any fear holding me back. The simple reason is that I am not a cheater

Do you watch porn? 

I never had any fear. I always had more love for my partner than anything else and I wanted to be with him out of love and not out of fear.

This is not what the contract is about, the contract is foundational, your not going deep enough. The love your experiencing is a play your acting out, a specific play that you have been trained/thought to follow. Do not confuse this for sociopatic behavior, i feel the exact same love and empathy for the people around me that you do, this conversation is about going meta that reveals it all as a trained act. Our values are trained.  

It is all attachment. The love you are experiencing is love for yourself. Your partner is giving you things that you want and you dont want to loss it. Fear. Thats the foundation of the relationship, gluing 2 people together with a set of beliefs/values so they can keep getting what they want. 

In fact even if I met the best person, the most attractive male, I still wouldn't cheat, simply because I love my partner so much that even such a throught would never cross my mind. In fact I would find it disgusting if that attractive man suggested me to cheat on my partner. 

I agree, i feel the same way. These values exist because we are having a specific kind of relationship, its indoctrinated. If we grow up with parents that where in a open relationship, our values would reflect that. It is all thought behavior. 

What you are saying is completely false and nonsense. 

The problem is that you are thinking like a cheater. Or player. That's why you feel like it's an instinct. Because all cheaters feel that way. They can't resist. They feel like they are holding something back out of fear. Because they don't love their partners. That's why they easily get attracted to others. 

The problem is that you are not inside the mind of a loyal person, example me. So you can't comprehend how I think and feel 

I still care about all my ex-girl friends, they simply weren't deleted from my mind after the breakup. We are built to love multiple people. Imagine a mutual break up caused by practical reasons (distance), Then we meet someone else, also great, the love for the previous partner does not magically die, unless your values reflect that.  

I will give you a simple example to make you understand how you think. 

Let's say you like to or want to rob a store. You constantly get the urge to do that. You might even justify it by saying that it's natural instinct to want to rob a store when nobody is looking. 

So when you are asked about other people, you say "oh, they are resisting out of fear of jail, if they didn't have the fear of jail /prison, they would definitely go around robbing stores because it's natural instinct."

Now it you were to ask people about it, they would tell you that they never got the urge to rob or steal. Not because of fear of getting caught or jail, but because they never felt like doing it. In fact they felt the opposite. Even if there were no laws, they still wouldn't steal because they respect the store, they respect things and they would never want to cause any form of harm. They see robbing as pointless. 

But since you are a thief, you think that everyone thinks like you and you reason their behavior as something caused by fear.. 

The same way. You are stuck in a cheater's mind. 

So you are assuming that everyone must be thinking like you. When that's a false belief. 

People don't cheat on their spouses, not out of fear, but because they truly love their partner and do not see others in the same way. 

They dont cheap because they dont want to hurt the person there with, the person there with has values that make them hurt. They have subscribed to a set of beliefs/attachments about relationships. Right now you have an idea of what a "relationship" is, this entire idea is a fabrication. 

I'm faithful and loyal to my partner because my basic instinct is to be loyal, that's what I want, and that's what I reflect. I'm not living in dissonance of doing something different but wanting something different. My love is with my boyfriend. He is the love of my life and I would never want anyone but him. 

Faithful and loyalty are values needed in the script everyone is acting out. The love for your boyfriend is your creation. The story of falling madly in love is trained, if you where never exposed to these kinds of ideas you would not of manifested it. We are exposed to various ideas, many of them become values that we identify with. Its all culture. 

Your thinking is stemming from low morals, low values and low consciousness.. 

Take the time to contemplate what im saying, if leo was saying this and he has in videos, you wouldnt be finding excuses to be right. 

But fortunately, not everyone thinks like you because they operate from a higher paradigm of morals. 

Morality is relative. 

 

Everything that people believe themselves to be is a product of there environment. Identifying with story's they have been exposed to. 

 

 

Edited June 29, 2020 by integral

[Preety_India]

@integral

Morality is not relative neither is morality cultural. Morality is absolute. We know what is right and what is wrong. If a certain behavior is still practiced in a certain culture and considered as moral, we need to condemn it because we know at an absolute level what is right and what is wrong. 

You have disillusioned yourself by associating morality to culture. 

I strongly disagree with you but anyway whatever suits you. 

 

 

 

[integral]

@Preety_India This is solid green thinking. The morality you follow is human morality. It is not absolute. Have you been watching leos videos? 

 

[Preety_India]

@integral it doesn't matter what he says or what anyone says. Which world are you living in where you need validation from someone? 

 

[integral]

@Preety_India If i where to link 100 enlightened gurus all contradicting your beliefs, you would reject it all? Convinced you know better? 

[Preety_India]

 

@integral  I don't need enlightened gurus to tell me. My moral compass is strong enough that I don't need no religion or guru or anyone to tell me what's fundamentally right or wrong. That's for people without a spine. They rely on such shit..Not me. 

If your morals are coming from someone's mouth, then you aren't independent enough to think for yourself. 

And who says that an enlightened person is better than the common man, just because he claimed he was enlightened. There are so many  enlightened gurus involved in scandals. Nobody is exempt from judgement, not even your enlightened gurus 

It is you who is trumpeting them not me 

Stop relying on teachers and start thinking for your  own yourself. You are not a kid who cannot know what is right or wrong. 

What you are spewing is typical red pill garbage and masking it as spirituality. 

Tomorrow some enlightened guru will come say that rape is okay. Am I going to believe that? That kind of shit is nonsense and if you can't think for yourself, then I feel sorry for you. 

It's not about who knows better. Separate the person from the message. 

If you don't like me fine, you don't have to. But you don't have to reject something that I'm saying simply because you don't like me or don't consider me enlightened. Simply because it's me who is saying. That's called bias. Maybe you don't like me, but my thoughts could be true?? 

And you don't have to believe whatever comes from the mouth of an enlightened gurus. Do not give such a pedestal to gurus that whatever they say is ultimate 

We should be able to challenge paradigms set by someone. That's called critical thinking. Not criticizing is called being gullible and brainwashed. 

You, not even in a 100 million years can come close to my Purity or my level of thinking. I can guarantee you that much. So enjoy your enlightened gurus. Maybe they need some extra awakening. 

My mind is crystal clear enough to not be tainted or brainwashed by some man in the authority of a guru. 

Bask in your red pill joy and you could be the next spiritual playboy. 

Meanwhile I will need a fed pill because I'm fed up with all the red pill garbage. 

Have a nice day. 

 

 

 

Edited June 29, 2020 by Preety_India

[integral]

31 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

 

@integral  I don't need enlightened gurus to tell me. My moral compass is strong enough that I don't need no religion or guru or anyone to tell me what's fundamentally right or wrong. That's for people without a spine. They rely on such shit..Not me. 

If your morals are coming from someone's mouth, then you aren't independent enough to think for yourself. 

And who says that an enlightened person is better than the common man, just because he claimed he was enlightened. There are so many  enlightened gurus involved in scandals. Nobody is exempt from judgement, not even your enlightened gurus 

It is you who is trumpeting them not me 

Stop relying on teachers and start thinking for your  own yourself. You are not a kid who cannot know what is right or wrong. 

What you are spewing is typical red pill garbage and masking it as spirituality. 

Tomorrow some enlightened guru will come say that rape is okay. Am I going to believe that? That kind of shit is nonsense and if you can't think for yourself, then I feel sorry for you. 

If a enlightened guru sais rape is ok, i would spend the time to understand his perspective, not reject it intuitively at face value. 

It's not about who knows better. Separate the person from the message. 

Straw man argument? Putting words in my mouth, inventing things that are not happening. 

If you don't like me fine, you don't have to. But you don't have to reject something that I'm saying simply because you don't like me or don't consider me enlightened. Simply because it's me who is saying. That's called bias. Maybe you don't like me, but my thoughts could be true?? 

This is exactly what i believe you are doing to me, this is why i involved leo, to redirect things away from me, it didn't work. This is projection... Where is the self honesty? Its muddled by the feeling of being personally attacked. 

And you don't have to believe whatever comes from the mouth of an enlightened gurus. Do not give such a pedestal to gurus that whatever they say is ultimate 

This entire post is an emotionally charged rant putting words in my mouth. This is not my position on anything. 

We should be able to challenge paradigms set by someone. That's called critical thinking. Not criticizing is called being gullible and brainwashed. 

My mind is crystal clear enough to not be tainted or brainwashed by some man in the authority of a guru. 

Why be on these forums if to reject all of leos teachings? 

Bask in your red pill joy and you could be the next spiritual playboy. 

Meanwhile I will need a fed pill because I'm fed up with all the red pill garbage. 

This feels like a personal attack because your heavily attached to your beliefs/values. Even while reading this, at no point will you reflect, its all about defending your position. 

Have a nice day. 

@Preety_India Leos videos has perspectives worth thinking about, thats why i linked it. Everything i said so far was not addressed ,instead you attacked the messenger. 

This path is NOT spirituality, its believing what ever suits you best. This is all a lack of honest self awareness. 

Edited June 29, 2020 by integral

[Preety_India]

16 minutes ago, integral said:

Why be on these forums if to reject all of leos teachings? 

You are challenging my presence on the forum and you are telling me that I'm attacking you when you are the one who is actually attacking me. 

You are in essence saying to me, "get out of this forum." and I can tell you that you don't the right to say that. You can stay with your beliefs and I don't need to allude to them. I'm not here to please you. I'm happy with my own principles and I haven't forced you to change your mind.

You are the one who is constantly trying to make me look inferior by giving me examples of enlightened gurus and using Leo to attack me. 

There are lots of people on here who don't agree with Leo and they are free to be here because this is not a cult. Are you trying to create a cult or an echo chamber here? Maybe you belong to such a culture where cults are followed, I don't know. 

And who told you that I reject all of Leo's teachings. That's such a generalization. If I don't follow one Leo video, how does it mean that I don't follow all. Does a person have to agree with everything. 

I agree with a lot of what Leo says so what you're trying to allude here is nonsense. You're simply trying to rile me up and I'm not having your childish pitiful arguments. 

By the way you are the one who is constantly attacking me even telling me to not be on this forum. So I won't like to ever engage with you on this forum again. 

If you don't like what I say, why bother to bring me up. Go your way. I don't like this conversation with you. It feels like an attack. 

Please leave me alone. 

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[integral]

@Preety_India Im not attacking you, that is the point, its is your perception. At no point did i tell you to leave the forums. These are false accusations and highly immoral. Literally reading and seeing what ever suits the ego. 

Now you agree with leos teaching? But not that one video that was linked because it didnt suit you. 

Edited June 29, 2020 by integral

[Preety_India]

@integral  then leave me alone. 

 

Please. 

[Onemanwolfpac]

On 26/06/2020 at 4:13 PM, integral said:

@Onemanwolfpac This is the way to go about a relationship indoctrinated into us by culture. Its cultural. 

I don't give a damn about the society nor the culture. My grandfather married 18. Not 40. The culture is not a excuse. 

I saw a article online "body positivity reference to women. Overweight man. Lol. Really? We need multiple words to soften the blow of FAT! 

The older i get, the pool of access WIDENS. Not shrinks. There's always hot and younger. The inversion is apparent. Flirty with a co worker today. Lose her number. Date hotter and younger. 

Thread starter, i lose count of the girls in my past. Always younger. The look of rage and anger i get when running into people from the past with a hot young girl early twenties. I once got flaked on years ago. Ran into her with a girl. Just turned 19. Not sorry. 

If you CHOOSE to be a rug, expect to get walked on.. I'd lose her number and date others. What you find is that, the chaos doesn't decrease. It grows. You can get burned or you can hit the ejection button and find a better alternative. 

 

[egoeimai]

@Chris365 don't act on these feelings.

[flowboy]

@Chris365 Because you just got off the heroin. It's been a while since your last hit, and you realise that if you take another hit now, you don't have to go through the withdrawal pain.

But the heroin hasn't been good to you, has it? She hasn't been respecting your boundaries.

You haven't been respecting your boundaries.

[flowboy]

@integral Enough with the need to have everyone agree with you. It's a weakness to be outgrown. Your neuroticism has derailed this thread unnecessarily.

[integral]

@flowboy I understand, Just a note, not a single point made was acknowledged or agreed on. When all the points can be found in leos videos. Everyone should reflect on there positions carefully. 

[Onemanwolfpac]

Thread starter, watch two movies:

• Blue valentine 
• Song for song

Both are with Ryan Gosling. Both accurately show exactly what not to do and when to move on. The sooner the better. Imagine you are on a sail boat with a gf but she's putting cannon balls through the boat. She's sinking the boat and not paddling. Looking to. Jump ship. Move on.