How are there "levels" to Consciousness?

[JayG84]

Are the levels just to the extent that the illusion of the self is in the way? Does that mean that animals are more conscious than us because they are closer to their true nature than we are? Why do we have conceptual intelligence and other beings don't. Where did this potential for "Maya" come from? 

Does collective consciousness define the Highest Self and the brain defines the Ego? Do brains actually exist in that way? It's just a limiter so to speak?

Questioning death brought me here. Consciousness remains but the brain dies. The illusion dies. So the brain is an illusion creating an illusion?

Edited June 26, 2020 by JayG84

[WaveInTheOcean]

There are no levels. Yet there are levels. 

The brain is not a limiter. Yet it is a limiter.

Forget concepts, as you can see it doesn't always helps.

[Member]

1 hour ago, JayG84 said:

Are the levels just to the extent that the illusion of the self is in the way? Does that mean that animals are more conscious than us because they are closer to their true nature than we are?

Self-awareness doesn't get in the way of spiritual evolution. It actually helps you to become aware of your Higher Self. Humans are only self-aware as human bodies, which is still a low level of consciousness because the self is not only the body (this or that), but EVERYTHING your mind projects into the real world. For example, when you're looking in the mirror, you're aware of yourself as a body image instead of seeing yourself as the WHOLE image (your room or the trees outside etc.). This is higher than human self-awareness. Animals are not more conscious because they don't possess the same degree of self-awareness like humans.

1 hour ago, JayG84 said:

Does collective consciousness define the Highest Self and the brain defines the Ego? Do brains actually exist in that way? It's just a limiter so to speak?

There is no Self outside of YOURSELF. Your ego thinks that the brain defines you which is self-delusion.

Limiting EVERYTHING to this, that or it is an ego function.

Edited June 26, 2020 by Member

[SoonHei]

levels are in a way unavoidable... same way a building is a structure with levels, 23rd floor cannot be where it is without the 22 floors below it. 

but with consciousness, any level can become the "highest" level the moment it takes on a certain perspective which makes it to be so.

[SoonHei]

@Johnny5 YOU are the max. the level of consciousness reaches towards you but never arrives because you are infinite. 

 

to infinity and beyond. the best way to make it grow is to just be YOU and watch it grow unobstructed and without resistance. 

[SoonHei]

you are center point in lake

effort and movement creates waves of disturbance which emanate out from you in the center.

if your level-of-consciousness can be the amount of stillness around you, it is maximized by you becoming still. then slowly slowly those ripples you have created before will be moving away and out from you and around you the ring of still-water becomes more and more and more. there's no edge to this lake... 

center everywhere, circumference nowhere

be still and KNOW

be still and FEEL

be still and SEE

SEE that you've always been still, just stop latching onto the ripples.

[SoonHei]

@Johnny5 you are the gas and the pedal and the foot that's gonna floor it

trust yourself and trust it will be and watch it become

might be a slow start, like pushing a boulder off the hill... once it gets rolling, there's no stopping it 

[SoonHei]

@Johnny5

you got it. it's never not been rolling... 

no attachment to result. because you already fine right where you are. 

so one acts because why not, but one isn't taking action to attain anything. you are already whole. and the action which results from wholeness is total and loving.

[seeking_brilliance]

It the same as asking how are there levels of forgetfulness.  

[Synchronicity]

There is One Ocean but many drops. 
 

In the same way, there’s One Consciousness but many levels. 

[Leo Gura]

The levels are not discrete things. Think of it more like light. There are many degrees of light, from an LED to the sun and beyond.

[JayG84]

On 6/26/2020 at 0:58 PM, SoonHei said:

you are center point in lake

effort and movement creates waves of disturbance which emanate out from you in the center.

if your level-of-consciousness can be the amount of stillness around you, it is maximized by you becoming still. then slowly slowly those ripples you have created before will be moving away and out from you and around you the ring of still-water becomes more and more and more. there's no edge to this lake... 

center everywhere, circumference nowhere

be still and KNOW

be still and FEEL

be still and SEE

SEE that you've always been still, just stop latching onto the ripples.

Beautiful ?

[AtheisticNonduality]

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The levels are not discrete things. Think of it more like light. There are many degrees of light, from an LED to the sun and beyond.

And radio waves and gamma rays.

[AtheisticNonduality]

Wut.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 28, 2020 by AtheisticNonduality