Trump and Steve Bannon want to turn a US-funded global media network into Breitbart 2

[abrakamowse]

So, now we are going to have the American version of Sputnik

 

https://www.vox.com/2020/6/18/21295549/trump-bannon-pack-global-media-china-wednesday-massacre

[DivineSoda]

We already have that, it's called Mainstream Media. I thought you'd know better w/ an avatar like that!

[abrakamowse]

@DivineSoda  Yes, but now is going to be that multiplied by infinity!!! to the infinity and beyooooond!!! Lol

 

I know that Mainstream media has its bias, but... Breitbart???? are you serious! That's going to be directly propaganda pro Trump.

[DivineSoda]

2 hours ago, abrakamowse said:

@DivineSoda  Yes, but now is going to be that multiplied by infinity!!! to the infinity and beyooooond!!! Lol

 

I know that Mainstream media has its bias, but... Breitbart???? are you serious! That's going to be directly propaganda pro Trump.

No no no. Not bias. Bias we understand. We all have it. Then we can say "oh CNN is just biased because they are liberal. I get that". No, it goes way deeper than bias. It's direct propaganda now. Left and Right and everything in between all do it. They get you to argue within a box, so that you don't consider any other possibilities. Don't focus so much on Trump. Presidents come and go. There is a machinery that persists regardless of who is President and uses the media as a public relations arm to subvert and psychologically manipulate the masses. 

Americans have no clue what propaganda looks like. We think it needs to be some Soviet era colorful cartoon banners plastered on concrete walls. Times have changed. It's more subtle now, but still extremely obvious if you know what to look for. Read Manufacturing Consent. And then realize that was written 32 years ago!

And if you're thinking oh well I don't watch television.. think again. The programming has infiltrated the vast majority of the internet, tv, radio, podcasts, etc you consume (especially if you're searching for stuff using Google). 

Unless you look deep under the covers, don't pretend that you're "woke" about what's happening in society, government, and politics (like most people here on this forum). 

[abrakamowse]

58 minutes ago, DivineSoda said:

There is a machinery that persists regardless of who is President and uses the media as a public relations arm to subvert and psychologically manipulate the masses. 

I agree with that. And I know that there's propaganda both sides. But maybe I think that liberal propaganda is a bit "softer" than conservative media.

I have to recognize that I like a lot Noam Chomsky but I didn't read manufacturing consent. I will try to read it soon, so I can see better what you are saying.

Politics sucks really...

Edited June 19, 2020 by abrakamowse

[Lyubov]

7 hours ago, DivineSoda said:

We already have that, it's called Mainstream Media. I thought you'd know better w/ an avatar like that!

Your false equivalents in this sub forum are a nice treat of a giggle 

[abrakamowse]

15 hours ago, Lyubov said:

Your false equivalents in this sub forum are a nice treat of a giggle 

IMO there's a difference between the mainstream media and Breitbart... but maybe I am wrong.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/12/the-ongoing-mistreatment-of-right-leaning-news-consumers/549335/

 

"The editor of the right-wing news site admitted that its coverage of a major political campaign was dishonest, but the news barely made a blip in conservative media outlets."

[DivineSoda]

19 hours ago, abrakamowse said:

I agree with that. And I know that there's propaganda both sides. But maybe I think that liberal propaganda is a bit "softer" than conservative media.

I have to recognize that I like a lot Noam Chomsky but I didn't read manufacturing consent. I will try to read it soon, so I can see better what you are saying.

Politics sucks really...

 

25 minutes ago, abrakamowse said:

IMO there's a difference between the mainstream media and Breitbart... but maybe I am wrong.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/12/the-ongoing-mistreatment-of-right-leaning-news-consumers/549335/

 

"The editor of the right-wing news site admitted that its coverage of a major political campaign was dishonest, but the news barely made a blip in conservative media outlets."

Here's the thing. "Right-wing" media is obviously propaganda. You can see it clearly, that's why you posted that article. That's dangerous, sure. But that's the devil you know. "Left-wing" mainstream media is equally as bad. That's what most people don't understand, including people on this forum. Including Leo. They are just better at hiding it. They aren't so overt. They dress it up nicer and operate under the guise of credibility. It's like Obama vs. Trump. Trump is an obvious buffoon so people get outraged and think he's so dangerous like a Hitler. Obama was just as bad, you just weren't paying attention to what he continued behind the scenes. You can go back and study this. 

It doesn't matter which color tie is in office. The U.S. continues it's same criminality all around the world, and the media protects and helps to cover up these activities. It's a global thing as well. BBC, Al-jazeera, etc. Some are slightly better than others, but for the most part, you're getting the same soft shit. When right-wing does it it's obvious. When left-wing does it, it's not.. and in my opinion that makes it even more dangerous because good, honest people like yourself can't see it. 

All good though, I have no vested interest in changing your mind. I'm just showing you the door. Either way, mom's going to put it back the way it ought to be. How long? Not long. Because what we reap, is what we sow.